- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: KIMBO!!!!!
Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:38 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:38 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
quote:
So Please Mr. Dingo, if that is your real name... piss off.
Well....we know of one poster who doesn't brown nose the admins.
FWIW, this is a very good board for MMA info. I just wish the threads would get stickied more often about it.
0
Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:38 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
Posted on 10/5/08 at 1:01 am to TomyDingo
quote:
Well....we know of one poster who doesn't brown nose the admins.
Well... if admin policy is to fire off, "By the way, who the frick are you again?" Then, I don't see the point in brown nosing.
Maybe I am new to MMA too, and the reply "i saw one to the back of the head. shite happens when people are turtling up trying not to get hit."
For what its worth, the feller that posted that originally posted "yawn".
Well, we agreed about the one hammer fist, but I didn't see any turtling up.
Looked like Kimbo was just on his knees and elbows to me. "they can deduct a point, they usually warn first but they shouldn't really step in unless its repeated which it wasnt."
Yes partially answers the rules part, but sure look like he took more than one swing to me.
Here is the answer from another thread, asked first that you didn't post: "Well it doesn't matter because the first punch is what dropped him and that was on the jaw"
Did I offend someone with the pulling teeth comment? I was just trying to get a better reason for the ruling, and someone provided that and I thanked them/ end my questions.
+1 for my MMA knowledge
Posted on 10/5/08 at 10:15 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
It's way easier to get a straight answer here than on sherdog fwiw.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 10:46 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
Also, to clarify, the ref "usually" will not stop the action to issue warnings for rabbit punches. He'll just yell to the fighter "Dont hit to the back of the head!" or something like that. The fight generally doesnt get broken up and re-started unless the ref has warned a few times and is now going to deduct points. So, even if Seth would have been issued warnings for those first couple of punches to Kimbo's head, the action still wouldnt have been stopped (again, thats usually the case for just warnings).
MMA rabbit punches and holding in football is a very good comparison. Its a judgment call by the ref. Sometimes they are right, sometimes not so much.
MMA rabbit punches and holding in football is a very good comparison. Its a judgment call by the ref. Sometimes they are right, sometimes not so much.
This post was edited on 10/5/08 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/5/08 at 11:16 am to TTownTiger
Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:44 pm to SmackDaniels
That's fricking hilarious. I don't think I've ever watched a man see his companies profits go down the drain before.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:53 pm to SmackDaniels
Posted on 10/5/08 at 12:53 pm to LSUtigahs28
It looked like he took a dive. I didn't get to see it in slow-mo but I looked at it over and over to see why he went down. Well, glad all that hype is over.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 2:11 pm to saderade
quote:
It looked like he took a dive.
For what reason XC would do that to there Golden Ticket is beyond me. This may have bankrupted this company. Slice must have gotten paid one hell of a bonus to take this fight. Yahoo said that they tried to convince Frank Shamrock to take the fight first. This was an extremly dumb move on Slice and his management team.
This kind of shite would never happen in boxing. You never take a fight this short. When you have no game plan and no idea what your opponent brings, your asking to bet KO.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 2:13 pm to saderade
quote:
It looked like he took a dive. I didn't get to see it in slow-mo but I looked at it over and over to see why he went down. Well, glad all that hype is over.
Kimbo shot in to take Petruzelli down and was caught on the button with a jab. You dont go limp like that if you take a dive.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 2:21 pm to saderade
double post.. sorry
This post was edited on 10/5/08 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 10/5/08 at 2:30 pm to Vood
Believe I had addressed your questions, as well, ArchieBengal.
The first strike (if you can call it that) after the felling jab was a glancing hit off the back of the head. The other hits were to the side of the head, which are legal. There is a fine line between hitting a fighter on the back of the head, and hitting him on the top or side of the head. As was mentioned, at most that kind of slight hit would have commanded a warning.
There have been fights, however, when a referee has called a several-minute stoppage to allow a fighter to recover from an illegal groin hit or a knee to the face while a fighter was on the canvas. These hits could have affected the outcome of the fight, whereas Seth's back-of-the-head lovetap had no obvious effect on the action.
FWIW, I don't understand why posters come on here and say things like, "Well, if this is MMA, then forget it" after watching one of these network-televised debacles. How hard is it to simply tune a tv to a REAL MMA spectacle like a UFC, WEC, or IFL fight, which air pretty much every day of the week, and pretty much every hour on the hour?
quote:
It really just looked like a glancing blow. Still, it looked like the ref moved in to give a warning but was too intimidated to get into the mix.
The first strike (if you can call it that) after the felling jab was a glancing hit off the back of the head. The other hits were to the side of the head, which are legal. There is a fine line between hitting a fighter on the back of the head, and hitting him on the top or side of the head. As was mentioned, at most that kind of slight hit would have commanded a warning.
There have been fights, however, when a referee has called a several-minute stoppage to allow a fighter to recover from an illegal groin hit or a knee to the face while a fighter was on the canvas. These hits could have affected the outcome of the fight, whereas Seth's back-of-the-head lovetap had no obvious effect on the action.
FWIW, I don't understand why posters come on here and say things like, "Well, if this is MMA, then forget it" after watching one of these network-televised debacles. How hard is it to simply tune a tv to a REAL MMA spectacle like a UFC, WEC, or IFL fight, which air pretty much every day of the week, and pretty much every hour on the hour?
This post was edited on 10/5/08 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/5/08 at 2:31 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
quote:
but I didn't see any turtling up. Looked like Kimbo was just on his knees and elbows to me.
Essentially, that is turtling up. There were maybe two to the back of the head but it certainly wasn't intentional and was worth nothing more than a warning. Also, the ref was about to step in because Kimbo was not defending himself butc for some reason, decided to give him a chance to bounce back. Which he didn't.
Well, his head did anyway.
quote:
It looked like he took a dive.
If you look at one of the gifs from the earlier pages you can see Kimbo's jaw snap to the right. A tell-tale sign that he's probably not gunna be on his feet in the next couples frames. The punch, albeit a weak, off balance pot shot, landed exactly where he needed it to land and the fight was pretty much over from there.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 2:50 pm to SoonerBorn
The sad thing is that Kimbo is really the one here who did nothing wrong and he is the one who had the most to lose. Dont get me wrong he got paid mucho money, but the real people who should have been exposed are the EXC execs who tried to pass Kimbo off as "The Greatest fighter in MMA" to the masses.
I dont blame Kimbo for taking the money and providing for him and his kids, but I hope he has been saving his money. He will be broke soon unless he did, because there is no way he can ever headline an event again.
About the only main event EXC has left is the Carano/Cyborg fight and I dont really know if that is enough to keep CBS interested.
I dont blame Kimbo for taking the money and providing for him and his kids, but I hope he has been saving his money. He will be broke soon unless he did, because there is no way he can ever headline an event again.
About the only main event EXC has left is the Carano/Cyborg fight and I dont really know if that is enough to keep CBS interested.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 3:20 pm to Vood
quote:
I dont blame Kimbo for taking the money and providing for him and his kids
I don't think anyone does. Who is going to say, no thanks I don't want this contract. I'm not that good.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 3:37 pm to shutterspeed
Again thanks for the replies, I just wasn't sure about the warning / doesnt really matter / could of had points deducted situation.
And when you said he (the ref) looked too intimidated to get into the mix, made me think that it was more serious of an infraction, but the feller was scared to do his job as referee.
I agree with all that the first shot clearly sent him down, but I thought blows to the back of the head was a bigger penalty than it clearly is. It is also very subjective / mainly a judgement call anyway.
Again, I could careless about Kimbo preserving his record; because, XC was just pimping him. His last fight was a debacle as is.
Will the start pimping Seth now, and hyping a rematch?
And when you said he (the ref) looked too intimidated to get into the mix, made me think that it was more serious of an infraction, but the feller was scared to do his job as referee.
I agree with all that the first shot clearly sent him down, but I thought blows to the back of the head was a bigger penalty than it clearly is. It is also very subjective / mainly a judgement call anyway.
Again, I could careless about Kimbo preserving his record; because, XC was just pimping him. His last fight was a debacle as is.
Will the start pimping Seth now, and hyping a rematch?
Posted on 10/5/08 at 4:31 pm to SoonerBorn
quote:Missed that .gif posted but you can tell there it was right on the chin. I was watching it last night on this website that had it with a shitty quality.
If you look at one of the gifs from the earlier pages you can see Kimbo's jaw snap to the right
Posted on 10/5/08 at 4:37 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
quote:
Will the start pimping Seth now, and hyping a rematch?
If I were XC I wouldn't let Kimbo anywhere near Petruzeli again. I would find more horrid cans for him to kick the shite out of and call the whole petruzeli thing a fluke. WOuld be hilarious if they tried to say he failed a steroids test or something.
Posted on 10/5/08 at 5:03 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:
If I were XC I wouldn't let Kimbo anywhere near Petruzeli again. I would find more horrid cans for him to kick the shite out of and call the whole petruzeli thing a fluke.
I hear Don Fry is sober enough to fight these days. Or maybe they can save some money and pay Mark Kerr in blow.
Page 6 of 7
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News