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Kellen Winslow to the Seahawks for a 7th rounder

Posted on 5/22/12 at 1:33 am
Posted by TDawg1313
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 1:33 am
Has a chance to be upgraded to a 6th. Another example of what I think is a lopsided trade. I still can't figure out why NFL starters yield such terrible returns in trades.

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Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 1:46 am to
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I still can't figure out why NFL starters yield such terrible returns in trades.



Cap space is what it's all about.

He's not getting any younger and they offloaded his $14M contract. They freed up $4.8M in cap space.
Posted by TDawg1313
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 1:57 am to
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He's not getting any younger and they offloaded his $14M contract. They freed up $4.8M in cap space.

That makes sense, thanks.
Posted by shuke33
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 1:58 am to
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 2:25 am to
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They freed up $4.8M in cap space.


He had a $3.3m base salary, so unless he had a large roster bonus that isn't showing up on rotoworld, they did not save that much. And that's excluding any accelerated guaranteed money that goes against the cap for trading him. And even after their big signings this offseason, I don't believe they were up against the cap.

I do agree that declining production is why they unloaded him (though I don't know why they would go after Dallas Clark if TB is worried about that). His knees aren't in the best shape. But, if he sucks, it only costs Seattle a 7th rounder, there would be no cap hit for cutting him. Not bad for taking a chance on the guy.
This post was edited on 5/22/12 at 2:27 am
Posted by HeadCoach
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 8:04 am to
7th rounder? Wow
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 10:44 am to
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they did not save that much.


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That includes a $3.3 million in base salary, $550,000 in per-game roster bonuses ($34,375 per game active), a $500,000 workout bonus and $1 million in incentives. Winslow will count for $4.8 million against the salary cap in 2012.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 11:45 am to
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Kellen Winslow to the Seahawks for a 7th rounder


The Seahawks definitely got a good deal with this. The combo of Zach Miller and Kellen Winslow could be pretty good, and maybe CPC is trying to base his offense like the Patriots. Match up those 2 to go along with Marshawn Lynch, Golden Tate, Doug Baldwin, and Ben Obomanu and the Seahawks have a nice little offense. Let's see how Tavaris Jackson or Charlie Whitehurt leads them this year.
Posted by ehidal1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 11:49 am to
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Let's see how Tavaris Jackson or Charlie Whitehurt leads them this year

Matt Flynn?
Posted by jrous19
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 11:50 am to
not a big fan of winslow, but the seahawks are becoming one of my fav. teams in the NFL
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 11:55 am to
maybe he has a season left.

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Jake Roth-US PRESSWIRE

Kellen Winslow Jr. dropped the bomb today on Sirius XM radio, stating coach Greg Schiano informed him the team will be seeking to trade him. This becomes the latest example of Schiano’s no nonsense attitude and approach to football. Either be committed or go home. The move likely comes as a result of Winslow’s lack of participation during voluntary workouts which were anything but.


looks like yet another aging vet trying to minimize the pounding on his body and getting "cut".
Posted by TTsTowel
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 11:58 am to
I totally forgot about him signing with Seattle.

BTW, what's his deal look like?
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36212 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 12:02 pm to
The Seahawks front office seems all over the place to me. Charlie Whitehurst, Winslow, Z. Miller, Flynn, R. Wilson, James Carpenter, Leon Washionton & LenDale White.
It may just be me, but I just don't see where this team is going.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37334 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 12:04 pm to
3 yr/$24 mil...not sure how much guaranteed
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15421 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 12:07 pm to
I still remember him freaking out in a locker-room interview. THIS IS WAR AND I'M A SOLDIER!
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10398 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 12:23 pm to
He and Freeman also used to go at it on the field when he wasn't getting the ball. Good move for both teams.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 12:59 pm to
He and Zach Miller are going to be a hell of a combination for Russell Wilson. They are copying the Patriots. Of course the Broncos sit back are content with freaking Jacob Tamme
This post was edited on 5/22/12 at 1:01 pm
Posted by cajuntiger07
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Member since Jan 2009
4469 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 1:05 pm to
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He and Zach Miller are going to be a hell of a combination for Russell Wilson


Wilson? No
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 1:06 pm to
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Russell Wilson


Flynn is your starter here.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19352 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 1:12 pm to
Maybe at the beginning of the year but I think eventually Wilson takes over.
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