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re: Joe Paterno will retire at the end of the season per AP
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:25 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:25 pm to Lester Earl
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yes, he did. It was 2nd hand. He swore under oath that is what McQueary told him. It was an allegation. Sandusky was Joe Pa's friend and I am sure he had some rebuttal when it originally happend.
Joe Pa didn't walk by a kid getting buttfricked and turned his head numerous times. That is what it sounds like he is saying.
so, he later hired the guy that he basically thought made up child molestation allegations as a full time assistant to be his right hand man on the sidelines?
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Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:26 pm to Lester Earl
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It was 2nd hand
It was second hand from a former player and kid that grew up in his neighborhood. It was second hand from a guy that he trusts enough that he has promoted him numerous times since then, so apparently he trusts him enough to name him as the recruiting coordinator.
This was not some stranger.
I have never seen such denial in my life. It's no wonder this kind of shite goes on. If complete strangers are giving Paterno this much slack, it's no wonder what's going in Pennsylvania.
This post was edited on 11/9/11 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:26 pm to WDE24
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You are trolling.
not trolling at all. thinking rationally and being able to put things into context comes rather easy to me.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:26 pm to Nittany Lion
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I agree with you guys on everything he's testified to! He assumed it was taken care of by his superiors and it wasn't. I'm questioning how much he knew beyond what he testified to.
Do you think Joepa knew about the 1998 investigation?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:27 pm to Pilot Tiger
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2. said it could have been a "generational thing" when it comes to handling these things behind closed doors without cops
he was reporting that was what Ivan Maisel wrote, turn your volume up.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:28 pm to OneMoreTime
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Exactly. He didn't follow through and look into it like he should have. You can't allow a person with those allegations against them to be involved with children on your campus without at least looking into it and making sure that the allegations aren't true.
cause he isnt a fricking detective? He's a football coach. this isnt blues clues.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:29 pm to Lester Earl
quote:So in your rational mind, placing everything in its proper context, you think Paterno acted appropriately and is without sufficient blame to be fired immediately?
not trolling at all. thinking rationally and being able to put things into context comes rather easy to me.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:29 pm to ZZTIGERS
I know people tend to side with their team through the thick and thin, but any of you Penn State fans who can sit here and try to defend Paterno with a clear conscience seriously need to get your heads checked out.
As other have said, HE KNOWINGLY ALLOWED ONE OF HIS COACHES TO CONTINUE COACHING FOR YEARS DESPITE arse-RAPING SEVERAL YOUNG BOYS IN HIS OWN LOCKER ROOM.
You argue that he did what he could? Seriously? If there was even a whisper of this to the police, the press, or the general population, the entire country would want Sandusky's head on a stick and have him throw in jail. There is no way he would have even been able to coach another game.
Paterno did absolutely nothing to stop this.
This is a big deal. This makes all the shite that has happened at SMU, USC, and Miami look like jaywalking. Everyone who had any prior knowledge of this better be fired and reprimanded in the court of law or else the entire judicial system as well as the NCAA are a bunch of hypocritical, money-loving pussies.
As other have said, HE KNOWINGLY ALLOWED ONE OF HIS COACHES TO CONTINUE COACHING FOR YEARS DESPITE arse-RAPING SEVERAL YOUNG BOYS IN HIS OWN LOCKER ROOM.
You argue that he did what he could? Seriously? If there was even a whisper of this to the police, the press, or the general population, the entire country would want Sandusky's head on a stick and have him throw in jail. There is no way he would have even been able to coach another game.
Paterno did absolutely nothing to stop this.
This is a big deal. This makes all the shite that has happened at SMU, USC, and Miami look like jaywalking. Everyone who had any prior knowledge of this better be fired and reprimanded in the court of law or else the entire judicial system as well as the NCAA are a bunch of hypocritical, money-loving pussies.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:29 pm to Maximus
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so, he later hired the guy that he basically thought made up child molestation allegations as a full time assistant to be his right hand man on the sidelines?
My guess is he didn't take it as lying, just a misunderstanding. Like the way Sandusky deflected another incident as a "wrestling match" or tickle party or whatever he called it.
I am sure there was some resistance on the other side of the story, not just what McQueary saw.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:29 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Now that is rational.
cause he isnt a fricking detective? He's a football coach. this isnt blues clues.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:30 pm to Lester Earl
quote:he called it an "interesting point"
he was reporting that was what Ivan Maisel wrote, turn your volume up.
that's not an interesting point. It's a fricking stupid attempt to defend a coward and someone who enabled a child molestor. But Schad thought it was interesting so he passed it along
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:30 pm to Maximus
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so, he later hired the guy that he basically thought made up child molestation allegations as a full time assistant to be his right hand man on the sidelines?
Yeah, makes total sense, doesn't it? If someone accused a long time friend of yours of sodomizing a 10year old, do you think you're gonna offer him a promotion if you don't believe him? I can think of other reasons for promoting. Quid Pro Quo
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:30 pm to Lester Earl
I'm not saying he should be the one investigating it, LE. I'm saying he should've made sure that someone was investigating it and made sure that Sandusky wasn't doing these things before allowing him to be around the program again.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:30 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Do you think Joepa knew about the 1998 investigation?
If he did I would think he would've testified to that. It wouldn't make sense to me that he would admit knowing about the 2002 incident and not the 1998 incident. The 1998 incident was reported to authorities and investigated anyways right? Isn't that the disconnect with the DA that's now dead?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:31 pm to Lester Earl
quote:So we are allowed to assume facts that attempt to absolve Paterno, but not rationally assume that he almost certainly knew of much more than he has admitted to?
My guess is he didn't take it as lying, just a misunderstanding. Like the way Sandusky deflected another incident as a "wrestling match" or tickle party or whatever he called it.
I am sure there was some resistance on the other side of the story, not just what McQueary saw.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:31 pm to Lester Earl
So if you were the manager of a business and one of your employees told you they saw a former employee anally raping a child in the bathroom, you would just call your boss and that would be the end of it?
Then, when you continually saw the former employee walking around your office, with kids, you would have no problem with it?
Then, when you continually saw the former employee walking around your office, with kids, you would have no problem with it?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:32 pm to Lester Earl
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My guess is he didn't take it as lying, just a misunderstanding. Like the way Sandusky deflected another incident as a "wrestling match" or tickle party or whatever he called it.
You can't misinterpret a naked 60 year old man in a shower touching a naked 10 year old boy. There is NO OTHER WAY to interpret that.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:32 pm to Pilot Tiger
I just can't fathom that this guy is not a target of the grand jury or at least being forced to step down on this because of this bullshite wholesome image as a football coach.
If this was any of the other 119 FBS coaches in the country he'd be headed to jail with the other enablers.
frick Joe Pa's image.
If this was any of the other 119 FBS coaches in the country he'd be headed to jail with the other enablers.
frick Joe Pa's image.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:33 pm to WDE24
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ou think Paterno acted appropriately and is without sufficient blame to be fired immediately?
With the facts that are out there, he did the right thing going to his superiors with it. That's all I could go on right now.
I dont think he should be fired immediately. i think he should be able to coach 1 more game, then step down.
The facts in this case surrounding what Paterno did/didn't do are not clear at this point. That alone buys him some time.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 12:34 pm to Bubba Hotep
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It was second hand from a former player and kid that grew up in his neighborhood. It was second hand from a guy that he trusts enough that he has promoted him numerous times since then, so apparently he trusts him enough to name him as the recruiting coordinator.
What's McQueary's deal? And how is he not under arrest?
-McQueary's sees the act and does nothing to stop it
-after talking with father they go see Joe Pa the next day but,
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McQueary also testified that he told Paterno what he saw the following day, though it isn't clear from McQueary's testimony how explicit he was in his description to Paterno.
-then sees this guy working with kids for the next 10 years and says or does nothing
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