re: Joe Pa should have 6 NCs

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Would you say that anyone 1995 Nebraska played in the regular season was on par with the better OU teams, 1977-1978 Alabama, 1980-1982 Penn State, 1987-1988 UCLA, 1991-1992 Washington, and 1996 ASU? No.

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Who cares? Every season is different and not every champion is the same. Besides you are cherry picking teams from different conferences and different years. In 1980 Nebraska played Penn State and beat them I don’t see 1978 or 2018 Bama on 1988 UCLA’s schedule either

Put it to you this way I don’t know and I don’t care if 2007 LSU could have beaten 2019 Bama or Tua Hurts Lawrence. They won the 2007 title that’s all that matters.

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No one did because there were not that many of that caliber of player back then …

Because more recent teams play in a more competitive era in terms of both the number of capable players and how frequently the best of the best are matched together due to conference championships and playoffs.

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You’ve got the causation backwards Players are developed better now because we understand training nutrition and recovery better, have better medical treatments and better training facilities. That’s why the games are more competitive, conference championship games have nothing to do with anything other the rating SOS.

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It only took Osborne 22 years to win a national title and didn’t even have to play the best team out there (Penn State) to do it.

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Now we get to the real point. You don’t like Nebraska and or Tom Osborne.

1994 Nebraska beat Colorado with Kordell Stewart, Rashaan Salaam -Heisman winner - Michael Westbrook top 5 pick and Rae Carruth - murderer- the later 3 were all first round picks. Nebraska was Colorado only loss they also beat Miami with
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Globetrotter747

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All of your arguments are low IQ

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It only took Osborne 22 years to win a national title and didn’t even have to play the best team out there (Penn State) to do it.

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Now we get to the real point. You don’t like Nebraska and or Tom Osborne.

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How does that fact express that I dislike Osborne and Nebraska?

I do think people overrate the 1995 team due to a more favorable schedule and bowl opponent than Osborne typically struggled against in his tenure.

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1971 Nebraska gets penalized in GOAT discussions for only beating a damn good OU team in Norman by four points. They beat everyone else by at least 24 pts.

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1971 Nebraska is recognized as a GOAT for sure, but I’ve never heard anybody “penalize” them because they won a 1v2 game on the road by only 4 points.

You know that was 1986 though, right? Not 1987.

87 Miami was the champion and 87 Penn State struggled. They lost to Bill Curry Alabama at home in week 2.

1986 Penn State was Preseason AP #5....

They didn't lose all season and never reached #1 until after the season.

That's how much the Pollsters thought of them and their close wins against a questionable schedule.... I was at their closest 2-point win as a kid against .500 Maryland.

What solidified Penn State @ #2 was whipping over-ranked #2 Alabama (who ended up in the Sun Bowl). I think Penn State was over a TD dog to Miami in the Fiesta Bowl who had been #1 since September.

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The Miami- Penn St game is the closest I’ve seen to a real world version of the tortoise and the hare. Testeverde had thrown 4 picks and still they were driving for what would have been the game winning TD when he threw pick 5 in the end zone.

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Maybe it doesn't get talked about as much (25 mil TV rating at the time) because it was a strange game with 7 total Miami turnovers and Penn State still not doing much on offense.... An accidental nail-biter...or as Jimmy Johnson has lamented, his most bitter defeat as a Coach.

It seemed inevitable Miami was going to snatch it away in the final minute as they converted a 4th down in their own territory and then easily drove inside the Penn State 10 with plenty of time.

But the story of the night happened one final time, Heisman winner intercepted again.

Joe pedo should be erased from history for being a pedo defender

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You know what Joe Pa should have? A criminal record for letting his buddy frick all those kids. Hurt the brand for sure

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The Sandusky saga is much, much more complicated than what has been reported nationally. Would make a great Netflix series.

1. Sandusky ran a charity that was under the direct supervision of the PA Attorney General’s office that provided foster services for troubled youths and families in Central PA. It was a favorite charity of the PA GOP. This is where Sandusky met all of his victims. Yet, no investigation of this charity.

2. For the 1998 incident, PSU Police had probable cause to arrest Sandusky. The Office of Attorney General put the kabosh on this. Even if Paterno knew of this investigation, it’s moot because it was investigated and the proper authorities didn’t charge.

3. The boy in the shower incident was first reported by Mike McQuery to his father and a Dr Dranov, a primary care physician. Dranov testified under oath at both the Sandusky trial and the trial of the PSU President that what McQueary reported to him did not rise to a reportable event as all McQueary told him was he saw Sandusky in the showers with a kid but didn’t see anything sexual. Creepy, yes. But not against the law.

4. It was found later on that McQueary waited 4 weeks to tell Paterno. Conveniently the day after a position coach position opened for the then grad assistant. Sandusky had been retired for a couple of years at that point.

5. The boy in the shower WAS known - he came forward and told Sandusky’s investigators as well as prosecutors nothing happened, as well as wrote an Op Ed saying the same thing. Then, his story changed 4 years later after Sandusky was convicted and after he received settlement from PSU.

6. The AOG admitted to McQueary they made up “McQueary witnessed Sandusky sodomizing a kid” in the grad jury presentment. Sandusky was found not guilty of that specific charge.

A few things happened on the political side of things:

-2012, for the first time ever a Democrat was elected attorney general. She ran on the platform of finding out why Sandusky pulled the wool over the AOG with his charity as well as the slow play of the investigation.
- she uncovered the AOG prosecutors had a nasty habit of exchanging porn over state computers and email addresses.
- she was scandaled out after she leaked grand jury testimony from another case.
- Tom Corbett became the first governor ever not reelected. He was the AG when the Sandusky investigation started in 2008. Nothing happened with the investigation for two years (and two more victims added to the rolls) until he was elected governor,