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re: JMart's attorney releases new statement

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Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:30 pm to
IIED requires extraordinary conduct that "shocks the conscience" relative to the context of the workplace.

While this would clearly be extreme in an office setting, this behavior seems fairly commonplace in an NFL lockerroom.

Not open and shut by any stretch.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:30 pm to
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coach and GM know what's happening, do nothing, dude ends up in a treatment facility.

he ends up there from standard behavior from the team. it's not outrageous stuff from the dolphins

he's in the treatment facility b/c he's mentally unstable and lost his shite. did we blame the dolphins for brandon marshall doing the same? ricky williams? did we blame the raiders for barret robbins doing the same? no
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:31 pm to
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quote:
slander..of incognito


The stupidity never ends, does it?



I was being facetious, but the only way Martin gets paid is if he goes on Oprah to pimp his tell all memoir about how mean the NFL is and endears himself to a bunch of bored housewives
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:31 pm to
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SlowFlowPro
You were in the military?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:31 pm to
no
Posted by A2
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:32 pm to
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Lawsuit time.

lawsuit for...what?


Workplace harassment.

Employment law.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:33 pm to
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Workplace harassment.

does florida have some sort of "workplace harrassment" cause of action?

hostile work environments are almost always linked to racial, sexual, etc discrimination (that doesn't exist here)
Posted by A2
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:34 pm to
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not pyle. he is a symbol, not reality

r lee was real b/c he was, well, real

pyle is a construct. he has no place in reality and no place in a discussion about reality


I would definitely disagree with your assessment.

Pyle is a reality, and occurs in a lot of peer group situations.

You have already shown you have no idea what bullying or hazing truly are.

What makes your assessment on this any different?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:36 pm to
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Pyle is a reality,

pyle would have never made it that far in basic. never

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You have already shown you have no idea what bullying or hazing truly are.



because i don't agree with a constantly shifting definition of both/either?

i have been bullied and hazed. i'm a better person for both

Posted by A2
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:37 pm to
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Or agreement to sequester evidence between Martin's attorneys, the NFLPA, and/or the Dolphins counsel.



Well, I'm no lawyer, but wouldn't that be the exact opposite of sequestering evidence by Martin's attorney?


Whoops. Meant disagreement.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:37 pm to
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did we blame the dolphins for brandon marshall doing the same? ricky williams? did we blame the raiders for barret robbins doing the same? no


Unless those 3 guys claimed their issues were as a result of teammates' actions, informed the GM of that, and the GM's response to all 3 of those guys was to tell them to resort to physical violence, then those are completely irrelevant comparisons.

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he ends up there from standard behavior from the team
as I've said, you don't know if it's standard behavior, we have just bits and pieces of information. You simply don't know that right now.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:38 pm to
A2 been trying to save face for two days
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:38 pm to
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, you don't know if it's standard behavior,

his teammates seem to think it was standard

all that's been released are a few texts

TEXT MESSAGES!!!

:omg:
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:39 pm to
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hostile work environments are almost always linked to racial, sexual, etc discrimination (that doesn't exist here)

You keep repeating something you have no idea about as fact
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:40 pm to
I guess I've been out of sports too long, because this all seems like ridiculous bullshite to me. A little joking is one thing, but they were clearly harassing the hell out of this dude.
Posted by A2
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:40 pm to
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Workplace harassment.

does florida have some sort of "workplace harrassment" cause of action?

hostile work environments are almost always linked to racial, sexual, etc discrimination (that doesn't exist here)


Yes.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:41 pm to
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You keep repeating something you have no idea about as fact

i already said flordia may have some whacky statutory cause of action, but i'm the one asking what they could sue under
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:42 pm to
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Yes.

what statute?

This is a florida attorney's blog


quote:

What's Not Illegal Harassment


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If your boss is just a jerk or abusive, that is not illegal. And many small employers are not covered by these laws, so you may not be protected at all. Many employees have the mistaken belief that, if they are being harassed by their employer, a supervisor, or a co-worker or they are in a "hostile work environment" that they automatically have a claim against the employer. This is simply not the case.



Posted by A2
NoVa
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:43 pm to
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A2 been trying to save face for two days


More like you've been showing your arse.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 11/7/13 at 9:43 pm to
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his teammates seem to think it was standard 
you can't say with any certainty whatsoever that his teammates knew the full extent of what was happening.

And of course the team will go against the guy who quit on the team, no surprise or motive to go against him there lol.

Furthermore, there are quite a few former players saying a lot of this stuff wasn't standard at all, which beings me back to my point we don't know so we shouldn't act like we do.
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