re: JJ Watt mic'd up against the Titans - UPDATE: intriguing steroid debate

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just having a hard time trying to understand the opposition from someone that is agreeing with me

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Thinking he did steroids =/= agreeing with all of your points in this thread

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So have I. I used that argument on page 2

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Page 2? You win!!!

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just having a hard time trying to understand the opposition from someone that is agreeing with me.

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Saying that he took PEDs at some point in his athletic career, along with 90% of all D-linemen, does not mean I agree with the rest of your argument. Really really really not hard to understand.

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So you and boom roasted both have admitted that you think he's used, yet you have argued for 15 pages about it. I hate to get personal but yall are both clowns.

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lol ok boss

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So that question is irrelevant to a thread on JJ Watt's potential steroid use?

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Thread topics evolve.

I'll try it this way, he obviously came outta nowhere in year 2, no one expected anything near 20 sacks. If you had to put percentages on things like steroids, "late bloomer", how would you categorize the percentages of how he all of a sudden got that good?

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So that question is irrelevant to a thread on JJ Watt's potential steroid use?


I'll chalk you up to a yes then.

So you and boom roasted both have admitted that you think he's used, yet you have argued for 15 pages about it. I hate to get personal but yall are both clowns.

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No, my answer is that I don't know. Maybe or maybe not. But the reason it is irrelevant is because you are attributing steroids as the main factor of his success.

That is the part that I disagree with. Reason being that so many other NFL players have taken steroids and not been near the player JJ Watt is.

You have been acting like he was just some nobody walk-on and the main reason he became the player he did was because of steroids.

And that's what I disagree with.

Clown.

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Just for fun, I'd like to see him get a surprise drug test.

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If this happened the NFL would be nonexistent... Any person who has been around the gym or football long enough realizes that 80% of the league juices...

I would say there is about a 10% chance he was just a late bloomer.


I mean we already know he was a pretty good athlete coming out of college. We know that his coordination for his size, is also above average, considering he played some QB and TE on his path to the NFL.


So if people think he is a late bloomer, what exactly went right for him?

His strength & power have always been there, y'all say. Yet you watch the video linked in the OP, and you didn't see him run thru college lineman like he has been doing in the NFL. DId he not learn a bull rush until his 2nd year in the league?


Is it technique?
coaching?
increased strength/speed naturally?

I mean to go from what he was, to what he is now, takes a lot of explaining in my eyes.

He's A)clearly bigger B)clearly stronger C)clearly faster D)doesn't get tired

now I know these things can be improved thru hard work, but the jump has been far too big for me to believe its natural. My guess is JJ Watt has always been a hard worker, due to his upbringing and location.

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You have been acting like he was just some nobody walk-on and the main reason he became the player he did was because of steroids.

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well, the facts out there are A)Central Michigan was his best offer out of HS.

and B)He indeed walked on to Wisconsin's team.

He kind of was a nobody walkon.

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Reason being that so many other NFL players have taken steroids and not been near the player JJ Watt is.

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yea, Jay Bell wasn't the same player on steroids that Barry Bonds was.

Crazy, i know.