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re: JJ Watt mic'd up against the Titans - UPDATE: intriguing steroid debate
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:29 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:29 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Maybe because he got better at football.
See, you're doing it again. Saying that I said he didn't produce in college?
He was productive. But he wasn't the player he is today type productive. Not even close
No red flags though. Just late bloomed
Because based on his combine numbers, he was a freak athlete even in college.
So it wasn't a lack of athleticism and strength holding him back.
It was that he wasn't as good at football as he is now. He is more skilled as a football player. Being good is about a lot more than being big and strong. Everybody at the NFL level is big and strong.
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:30 pm to PrimeTime Money
If you had to guess, is he clean or not?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:33 pm to Lester Earl
I've been saying for a couple of years that's he's on the juice, but living in Houston, I get laughed at because he's God out here. I hope he gets popped soon.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:33 pm to SabiDojo
quote:Holy shite!
SabiDojo
Did your comment on the first page start this entire thing?!
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:35 pm to lsu480
quote:
Dude juices and wouldn't be elite without it, bottom line.
Meh, then he must be on the most incredible stuff known to man. Imagine how good other decent players would be if they took the same stuff Watt does.
If steroids were the only difference, then you would think more players would be on them, no?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
It was going to devolve into a steroid debate at some point. People get a hard on for accusing Watt of PED use.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:39 pm to slackster
The JJ Special Sauce: Turning big bodies into GOATs in one offseason or less.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:41 pm to slackster
quote:
If steroids were the only difference, then you would think more players would be on them, no?
Nobody has said its the only difference, how many times does that have to be said?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:42 pm to Lester Earl
quote:4th time now, i've already conceded there's no explanation for it.
When you can explain his rise other then being a late bloomer, I'll attempt to explain this.
Every time something happens in sports, we go searching for an explanation, and when we don't really know, we make one up. SOmetimes the answer actually is "I don't know", and that's the case here.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:43 pm to boom roasted
says that guy that admits he probably used.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:44 pm to Lester Earl
quote:And?
says that guy that admits he probably used.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:45 pm to Lester Earl
quote:i'll grant you Rodgers, but that's just a cop out on the Sherman example.
It's really hard to compare a DB to a Defensive lineman.
Or Aaron Rodgers to a DL.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:45 pm to lsu480
quote:
Nobody has said its the only difference, how many times does that have to be said?
no shite
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:46 pm to Lester Earl
quote:But that's not your argument. Bonds was an HOFer turned GOAT.
a guy like this using steroids is a guy like Barry Bonds using. a 30/30 player already with great athleticism can transform into something that isnt naturally possibly
You're arguing a very mediore guy turned GOAT, apples and oranges.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:47 pm to boom roasted
Most SUPER elite athletes are relatively late bloomers. And when you have the measurables of Watt, with his insane work ethic to perfect every part of his craft, you're gonna get a guy like Watt sometimes.
That said, I give it a 99% chance he's on steroids. Just like the rest of them.
That said, I give it a 99% chance he's on steroids. Just like the rest of them.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:49 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:I've been saying that for about 7 pages now lol.
So even if he is on something, that doesn't explain away why he is so much better than many others who also are on something
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:50 pm to shel311
quote:
You're arguing a very mediore guy turned GOAT, apples and oranges.
Actually never once did i say he was very mediocre
I just traced his path to where he is now. Maybe you deduced he was average from my info?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:50 pm to Lester Earl
quote:It's pretty irrelevant to the point you're arguing, not sure how you don't see that after this much debate on the subject.
says that guy that admits he probably used
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:51 pm to boom roasted
quote:
And?
just having a hard time trying to understand the opposition from someone that is agreeing with me.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:53 pm to shel311
quote:
It's pretty irrelevant to the point you're arguing, not sure how you don't see that after this much debate on the subject.
id like to hear your thoughts on exactly what you think i am debating. Cause I think you are confused. Feel free to use my own quotes
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