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re: Jay Bilas calls out the NCAA's hypocrisy.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:01 pm to LSUandAU
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:01 pm to LSUandAU
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Players should get a monthly stipend, as ROTC scholarships provide...$300-$500 per month. I don't think you give stars a lot and others little to nothing in college, but they should all get a stipend.
there are maybe a dozen schools that could afford that the rest would start bouncing checks after a couple months
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:02 pm to SG_Geaux
Again, we're not even talking about the university paying athletes
We're talking about them being able to use their likeness to their financial benefit. I don't see the problem.
We're talking about them being able to use their likeness to their financial benefit. I don't see the problem.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:03 pm to Powerman
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Again, we're not even talking about the university paying athletes
We're talking about them being able to use their likeness to their financial benefit. I don't see the problem.
You know damn well that if the students are allowed to go out and make money themselves, there will be no end to the amount of money that boosters figure out how to pay them.
I don't think we need to go back to those days.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:07 pm to SG_Geaux
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I don't think we need to go back to those days.
"Those days" never leftPosted on 8/6/13 at 11:08 pm to SG_Geaux
The students are supposed to be getting tuition as there payment. If they elect to piss that away then that is there problem. No one is making these kids play college ball, if they don't like the rules then don't play. I just don't understand how someone voluntarily does something then gripes about the rules are in place.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:09 pm to saintsfan22
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"Those days" never left
I realize that it still goes on under the table, but imagine how out of control it would get.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:09 pm to Powerman
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But the guy won the Heisman trophy based on his skill. Why shouldn't he be able to monetize off of something that has made other people rich already?
Whoa...hold the frick up. Who says he can't make money off his name? In fact, it seems as though he's done just that. The NCAA isn't telling Manziel he can't make money off his name. They're just saying he can't make money off his name and continue to play NCAA football.
No one put a gun to Manziel's head and forced him to sign a contract saying that he'd abide by the NCAA's rules in exchange for a college scholarship. Whatever happened to making people abide by the contracts they sign?
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We're talking about them being able to use their likeness to their financial benefit. I don't see the problem.
I agree with your point. But, that's not the current rule, and Manziel knew it and agreed to abide by it. He should face the consequences of his actions that are currently against the rules.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:15 pm to medtiger
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I agree with your point. But, that's not the current rule, and Manziel knew it and agreed to abide by it. He should face the consequences of his actions that are currently against the rules.
I'm with you there. I just disagree with the current rules. I fail to see what greater good they serve for the sport or for anything or anyone for that matter.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:16 pm to medtiger
Dude gets free tuition plus room and board. 4yrs of that is worth over $50K. Over 120K at a private school like USC.
Anyone that thinks these kids should get additional money must be mildly retarded.
Anyone that thinks these kids should get additional money must be mildly retarded.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:22 pm to lsu xman
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Dude gets free tuition plus room and board. 4yrs of that is worth over $50K. Over 120K at a private school like USC.
Who is getting the better end of the deal? The student athlete or the university?
And when did 4 years and 50K all of a sudden turn into something impressive? I have 19 year old kids straight out of high school working for me making 60K a year or more.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:23 pm to Powerman
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Again, we're not even talking about the university paying athletes
We're talking about them being able to use their likeness to their financial benefit. I don't see the problem.
It is the same thing. The school with the best "autograph selling" infrastructure is the high bidder. The problem is the NFL's ridiculous draft restrictions. Players should be able to turn pro out of High School.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:27 pm to Powerman
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Who is getting the better end of the deal? The student athlete or the university?
The student athlete can choose to do something else.
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And when did 4 years and 50K all of a sudden turn into something impressive? I have 19 year old kids straight out of high school working for me making 60K a year or more.
Maybe the student athlete should have chosen to work for you then.
Either way the student athlete made his choice.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:27 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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It is the same thing. The school with the best "autograph selling" infrastructure is the high bidder.
What? The schools would not be involved or it would be a violation for them to be.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:28 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Players should be able to turn pro out of High School.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:28 pm to okietiger
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What? The schools would not be involved or it would be a violation for them to be.
Surely you are not this dense man.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:29 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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is the same thing. The school with the best "autograph selling" infrastructure is the high bidder.
Couldn't you argue that those teams already get the bulk of the top recruits anyway?
The schools like USC, Bama, LSU, Oregon, Ohio State, and shite maybe even Michigan again one day would all dominate...ya know...just like they already are.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:33 pm to SG_Geaux
You'd make it the rule that schools would have no affiliation with autograph sales, endorsements, etc. If it was proven they did get involved, it would be a major offense.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:35 pm to okietiger
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You'd make it the rule that schools would have no affiliation with autograph sales, endorsements, etc. If it was proven they did get involved, it would be a major offense.
That already exists.
The boosters would be the ones passing the big money around to lure players.
That stuff already happens now of course, but it would out of control with almost no limits if you just sat back and allowed it.
I guess we should just go ahead and allow steroids to. I mean who are we to not allow these kids to better themselves ?
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:37 pm to SabiDojo
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What should be "policed"?
Recruits making money off of their "likeness."
First, any agent, booster, or other big money player can start buying the top athletes based on their "likeness." This would turn collegiate athletics into professional athletics.
Second, their "likeness" does not exist without a school to fricking pimp it. You need a TV contract and school tradition to make your likeness worth shite.
Posted on 8/6/13 at 11:45 pm to okietiger
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You'd make it the rule that schools would have no affiliation with autograph sales, endorsements, etc. If it was proven they did get involved, it would be a major offense.
Ok so the coach puts on his headphones and looks the other way as money man hands out the team pay checks for the week.
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