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re: It’s hard to overstate how good Greg Maddux was
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:25 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:25 pm to Lester Earl
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Pedro
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:25 pm to Spelt it rong
quote:players reputation does have an effect on the umps both pitchers and batters
I see a ton of swings and misses as well as a lot of corners getting painted. You think the umpires gave a single team better strike zones but only for the pitchers?
fact is the braves pitchers killed and ate innocent children to harness dark powers
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:27 pm to Lawyered
That was a Dick move but in fairness, players aren't obligated to sign autographs.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:27 pm to OWLFAN86
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fact is the braves pitchers killed and ate innocent children to harness dark powers
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:28 pm to OWLFAN86
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fact is the braves pitchers killed and ate innocent children to harness dark powers
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:29 pm to Roger Klarvin
He has the widest plate in baseball. It was comical how wide that zone was.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
I feel pretty certain 1999-2000 Pedro was the greatest pitcher of my lifetime, but Maddux was obviously phenomenal and had the better overall career.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:32 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Melt? He never beat us.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:34 pm to Lester Earl
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Give me whatever you think maddux’s peak was
92-98
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:37 pm to Roger Klarvin
The greatest pitchers in my lifetime, in their prime, in no particular order:
Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, Roger Clemens, Pedro, and Scherzer.
Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, Roger Clemens, Pedro, and Scherzer.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:39 pm to The Seaward
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I feel pretty certain 1999-2000 Pedro was the greatest pitcher of my lifetime
I can't disagree here. He was absolute filth.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:41 pm to BeachDude022
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The greatest pitchers in my lifetime, in their prime, in no particular order: Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson, Greg Maddux, Roger Clemens, Pedro, and Scherzer.
Nolan Ryan might beat alot of those guys with longevity and durability, but no way his peak was better than Pedro’s or most of those guys.
Also, I have a ton of fricking respect for Max Scherzer, but peak Kershaw > peak Scherzer.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:42 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Maddux 92-98’
190 ERA+
54.7 WAR
2.59 FIP
Pedro 97-2003
213 ERA+
57.3 WAR
2.26 FIP
A note on the WAR. Maddux pitched 267 more innings than Pedro. WAR, of course, is a stat that accumulates with more games played.
190 ERA+
54.7 WAR
2.59 FIP
Pedro 97-2003
213 ERA+
57.3 WAR
2.26 FIP
A note on the WAR. Maddux pitched 267 more innings than Pedro. WAR, of course, is a stat that accumulates with more games played.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:46 pm to Lester Earl
I know what WAR is.
But Maddux was still better. Now like someone else said 99-2000 Pedro was the best player on the planet, but overall,Maddux was better.
But Maddux was still better. Now like someone else said 99-2000 Pedro was the best player on the planet, but overall,Maddux was better.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:48 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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But Maddux was still better.
Ah, well shite this convinced me
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:49 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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I still don’t know how the Braves didn’t win more World Series in the 90s
You can blame the hitters for that.
Maddux, Glavine, & Smoltz , in 21 World Series starts, only had a combined record of 8-8 even though they had a combined ERA of 2.26.
They had the following stats in the World Series:
.................W-L...GS....IP.....ERA...WHIP
Maddux......2-3....5....38.2....2.09...0.905
Glavine.......4-3....8....58.1....2.16...0.909
Smoltz........2-2....8....51.0....2.47...1.275
It wasnt the pitching of their big 3 that cost them rings.

Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:51 pm to The Seaward
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Also, I have a ton of fricking respect for Max Scherzer, but peak Kershaw > peak Scherzer.
I almost put Kershaw in there but his playoff fails kept me from doing it. I’m sure he’s heartbroken over it
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