re: It&#39;s a Joke That Marvin Harrison Jr. is Even Considered for the Heisman

Posted by VolsBoi

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:56 am to buckeye_vol

Nobody rides players meat harder than Ohio St fans

Posted by DawgCountry

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:00 am to Buckeye06

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I’m gonna tell him the Harrison is a better prospect than Chase.

way too early in the morning for this kind of take. wow

Posted by GentleJackJones

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:01 am to VolsBoi

Ben Morrison shut Harrison down. I think he held him to 3 catches for like 30 yards and 0 Tds.

Posted by Buckeye06

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:08 am to DawgCountry

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way too early in the morning for this kind of take. wow

I like to bait the LSU folks at times, but it's true.

Most draft experts have said he's a better prospect

LINK

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Harrison is the top overall prospect on my 2024 NFL Draft board. His grade rests in the blue-chip range, and he’s truly near the generational tier for his position group. Ja’Marr Chase was a superior run-after-catch threat as a prospect, but in my time evaluating the NFL Draft, Harrison is already the most complete player on record at his position.

People get so insulted when someone is better than someone else. It doesn't mean Harrison is going to be better than Chase in the NFL, but come on. He's 2'' taller and has one of the best WRs ever as his dad who helped him run routes. He also has 2 years of production to the one for Chase (Chase was incredible mind you). So it's not crazy to think he's a higher rated prospect

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:17 am to Buckeye06

Just wait until they start hearing about Jett.

Posted by shel311

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:33 pm to TigerAttorney

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Daniels is lapping the competition. It’s gunna happen.

Lamar Jackson and Tebow won it with 3+ losses

Daniels is +700, it's not looking good.

He's the best player in the nation. He very very very obviously has the best statistical profile in the nation.

But that's just not how it works. It's narrative driven.

Caleb Williams won it last season with 3 losses. That doesn't mean Daniels will win it this season with 3 losses. The narrative isn't there for Daniels right now.

But rest assured, there is no way one can pick any other QB and make a logical argument that that QB is better than Daniels.

And Harrison...Daniels has almost as many yards rushing as Harrison does receiving. As of right now, any vote for Harrison over Daniels would be laughable, and that person should lose their vote.

Posted by shel311

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:35 pm to TigerAttorney

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They are a gimmick. Washington is far superior if you want to talk X and O. Nix would be a fricking travesty if he is on it. Will never get the votes:

Why are you thinking these voters know shite like this?

Dan LeBatard's Dad has(or maybe had, but point still stands) a Heisman vote, for crying out loud.

This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 12:35 pm

Posted by shel311

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:40 pm to KillerNut9

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No he’s not

This isn't a discussion about who is the better prospect.

Nabors has been the better WR this season.

Everyone knows Caleb Williams is a better NFL prospect than Jayden Daniels. Jayden Daniels is better at college football this season than Caleb Williams. Same thing with Nabors/Harrison.

Posted by KillerNut9

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:50 pm to shel311

Agree to disagree.

The production he has put up given Henderson’s injury, Egbuka’s injury, the run game struggles, and Kyle McCord’s inconsistencies, is hilariously good. And there is no fricking way Nabors has been doubled/bracketed nearly as much.

Posted by shel311

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:01 pm to KillerNut9

McCord is obviously not as good as Daniels but he has the 12th highest Passer rating. He's been a decidedly good CFB QB this season.

Posted by The Boat

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:06 pm to Shiftyplus1

Harrison Jr winning would be a bigger joke than Troy Smith

Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:08 pm to The Boat

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Harrison Jr winning would be a bigger joke than Troy Smith

Let's
Go

Posted by KillerNut9

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:08 pm to shel311

Nabers has 200 yards advantage. MHJ has 3 TD advantage. It’s practically a wash when you consider that.

Then you throw in that Ohio State was missing its 2nd and 3rd best offensive weapons for half of this season. And JD >>> McCord.

I know I’m biased. But I still think MHJ has had the best WR season in college all things considered.

Posted by CatfishJohn

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:15 pm to Shiftyplus1

Stats:

YPG:

1 Malik Nabers LSU 128.4
2 Malik Washington Virginia 119.9
3 Rome Odunze Washington 110
4 Caullin Lacy USA 109.6
5 Troy Franklin Oregon 109.3
5 Xavier Legette S Carolina 109.3
7 Marvin Harrison Jr. Ohio State 106.3
8 LaJohntay Wester FAU 104.2
9 Ricky White UNLV 102.8
10 Luther Burden III Missouri 98.4

TDs:

1 Brian Thomas, Jr. LSU 13
2 Marvin Harrison Jr. Ohio State 12
3 Troy Franklin Oregon 11
3 Ja'Mori Maclin N Texas 11
3 Jalen Royals Utah State 11
3 Brenden Rice USC 11
7 Malik Nabers LSU 10
7 Terrell Vaughn Utah State 10
7 Luke McCaffrey Rice 10
7 Keon Coleman FSU 10
7 Roman Wilson Michigan 10
7 Jacob Cowing Arizona 10

Really good WR, will be a good pro. Heisman nomination is pretty fricking stupid, much less him have similar odds to Jayden Daniels who is rewriting record books.

This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 1:23 pm

Posted by Buckeye06

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:29 pm to CatfishJohn

Nabers, Thomas and LSU need every one of those points every single week

They are obviously really good WRs but LSU needs 40+ to be competitive in games so they get more opportunities.

It's the same thing with Stroud the last 2 years at OSU. He threw the ball a ton and got huge stats because OSU's defense was bad

Posted by CatfishJohn

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Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:34 pm to Buckeye06

What about Troy Franklin?

Why isn't he getting Heisman talk?

The whole thing is so dumb because it was the narrative coming into the season. He does not deserve a Heisman invitation.