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re: Is Kobe Bryant a Top 10 All Time Great Player
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:40 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:40 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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There's a reason why Hollinger isn't employed by any GM. His measures suck. They always have and always will.
quote:
You do realize Hollinger works for the Grizz?
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Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:44 pm to molsusports
They hired him in December and he then he told them to trade their best player.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:45 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:people also use batting average and wins for pitchers and think that's right and the important stats too, so I assume you're one of those people as well when analyzing baseball.
come on man, those are basically not relevant, major stats are what people compare. PPG, rebounds, steals,blocks and shooting %
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:45 pm to DURANTULA
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their best player.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:47 pm to shel311
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people also use batting average and wins for pitchers and think that's right and the important stats too, so I assume you're one of those people as well when analyzing baseball.
this isn't baseball and everyone knows baseball stats that in depth are for nerds
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:47 pm to DURANTULA
looking forward to this:
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:49 pm to mattz1122
Rudy Gay was the Grizzlies best player. Marc Gasol is a beta to the max player. He's not going to take them to the next level. You don't toss aside a All-Star quality 20 point a night guy for fricking Tayshaun Prince.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:50 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Time to get with the times man, these stats are the future, whether you like em or not.
this isn't baseball and everyone knows baseball stats that in depth are for nerds
Baseball is proof of that.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:52 pm to shel311
Baseball is not basketball. These stats are a fad and will pass.
Hell even for baseball, they don't mean jackshit. Just look at the last few WS winners.
Hell even for baseball, they don't mean jackshit. Just look at the last few WS winners.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 1:59 pm to DURANTULA
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These stats are a fad and will pass.
with the obvious exception of total shooting percentage and whatever other statistics might suit a particular argument
Posted on 6/15/13 at 2:02 pm to molsusports
Gamecock needs to take a stats class at his local community college
Posted on 6/15/13 at 2:05 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Along with some sort of logic/reasoning class.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 2:05 pm to DURANTULA
quote:Yeah things like stats and facts are all just a bunch of bullshite
Baseball is not basketball. These stats are a fad and will pass. Hell even for baseball, they don't mean jackshit. Just look at the last few WS winners.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 2:18 pm to Melvin
Of all the people arguing about Bird and Magic and Kobe...who here actually watched Bird win his titles?
I'm not talking about Dream Team Bird...I'm talking about real Larry Bird winning his titles.
I bet not many...but you've sure seen a lot of Kobe highlights on Sportscenter.
I'm not talking about Dream Team Bird...I'm talking about real Larry Bird winning his titles.
I bet not many...but you've sure seen a lot of Kobe highlights on Sportscenter.
This post was edited on 6/15/13 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 6/15/13 at 2:43 pm to Melvin
So all stats are always relevant all the time?
You go ahead and buy into PER chief. A fool born every minute.
You go ahead and buy into PER chief. A fool born every minute.
Posted on 6/15/13 at 3:23 pm to DURANTULA
Matchups>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Stats.
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Posted on 6/15/13 at 5:22 pm to DURANTULA
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Rudy Gay was the Grizzlies best player. Marc Gasol is a beta to the max player. He's not going to take them to the next level. You don't toss aside a All-Star quality 20 point a night guy for fricking Tayshaun Prince.
when Rudy Gay learns how to shoot the basketball again, let alone find a way to play within the team system AND do something other than jack up shots, get back to me.
Also, didn't Memphis two longest playoff runs occur when Gay was absent? (hint:they did)
Second- Rudy Gay when did he make an All-Star team?
Gasol is an All-NBA level player, the team is better off running things through him and Conely. The evidence is clear as day.
The Grizz did frick up,imo, letting Collins go.
This post was edited on 6/15/13 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 6/15/13 at 8:58 pm to mikelowery1911
quote:Anybody who thinks Grant Hill on his best day ever compared to Kobe is too flippin dumb to be talking about basketball and probably anything else. Grant hill even in front of Russell? No cure for stupid is all I can say. Kobe is probably as good as anyone not Jordan.
10. Grant Hill (pre injury
Posted on 6/15/13 at 9:41 pm to battscave
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This is who I have ahead of him in no particular order. 1. Jordan 2. Bird 3. Magic 4. Shaq 5. Wilt 6. Olajuwon 7. Karl Malone 8. Tim Duncan 9. LeBron 10. Grant Hill (pre injury) 11. Bill Russell 12. Jerry West 13. Oscar Robertson 14. Kareem 15. Dr. J
Did you see Grant Hill play for the first six years of his career? His averages were 20/7/7. Only Lebron, Bird and Robertson matched that during their first six years. His first six years were definitely better than Kobe's first and arguably as good as any six year stretch of Kobe's career.
Kobe is better than Shaq, Bird, Magic, Chamberlain, Robertson, Duncan, Olajuwon, Malone, Lebron and Duncan without a doubt? That's a stretch. You will be hard pressed to find many people who agree with you
Posted on 6/15/13 at 10:11 pm to mikelowery1911
IMHO
1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. LeBron (assuming he wins 4 titles)
4. Kareem
5. Bird
6. Shaq
7. Bill Russell
8. Kobe
9. Wilt
10. Duncan
1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. LeBron (assuming he wins 4 titles)
4. Kareem
5. Bird
6. Shaq
7. Bill Russell
8. Kobe
9. Wilt
10. Duncan
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