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re: Is Joe Flacco really that much better than Matt Ryan?
Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:36 pm to Sophandros
Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:36 pm to Sophandros
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BTW, I'll take Ryan over Flacco any day of the week.
Lololol
Saints fans rip on Ryan all day long for not producing in the postseason then they'd take him over someone who's won in the postseason every single season of his career?
Lol, there's not a single reason why you'd take Ryan over Flacco. Not saying it's a $7 mil gap, but it is most certainly a gap.
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:41 pm to TotesMcGotes
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In no world is Flacco worth $7 million more than Matt Ryan.
Except the world of results..
One is playing in a superbowl and has more playoff wins in one year then a guy has his whole career..
Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:49 pm to TotesMcGotes
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So, because Rahim Moore made one of the worst plays of the season, Flacco deserves $5-7 million more than Ryan?
Meh, they probably would have played in the Super Bowl last year had it not been for Lee Evans's drop and Cundiff's missed FG.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:50 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:FIFY
One is ON A TEAM that is playing in a superbowl and plays for a team that has more playoff wins in one year than a guy's team has his whole career..
There is nothing lazier and more ignorant in sports than simply ascribing a team's success to that of an individual player.
If you put Ryan on the Ravens this year, they're still in the Superbowl. Ryan is better than Flacco by every objective measure. Just a month ago Flacco was considered an average-tier QB while Ryan a Very good 2nd-tier QB right under the big 4. Is one game for each player seriously going to overrule an entire body of work?
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:56 pm to Jamohn
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There is nothing lazier and more ignorant in sports than simply ascribing a team's success to that of an individual player
Quarterbacks, like pitchers and goalies, are rated on wins and losses. Quarterbacks get all the glory when the win and they are also the goat when they lose.
Joe Flacco wins. Only quarterback to make the post season in his first five seasons. Real close to playing in 2 straight Super Bowls. Matt Ryan has won exactly one playoff game. Say what you want but the ONLY thing that matters in the NFL is winning.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:03 pm to LSUZombie
Ryan is much better than Flacco
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:04 pm to Jamohn
Ju is ignant
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:15 pm to TigerBait2008
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Except the world of results..
So Mark Sanchez is better than Matt Ryan, too?
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:16 pm to TotesMcGotes
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So Mark Sanchez is better than Matt Ryan, too?
By the logic of some itt, Sanchez and Flacco are the 2 best QBs in the league.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:23 pm to LSUZombie
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Is Joe Flacco really that much better than Matt Ryan?
Name ONE QB that had more wins in their first 5 years in the NFL than Joe Flacco has had....ill wait.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:54 pm to LSUZombie
Ryan is a much better qb and it isn't even the slightest bit close. This isn't me sucking ryan's dick. Its simply that... FLACCO ISN'T VERY GOOD. Seriously, go look at flacco's stats. A thinking person could not come to a different conclusion.
Flacco('s team) who held the patriots to 13 points advanced one playoff round further than Ryan('s team) who gave up 28 to the 9ers. Is that why people (Saints Fans) think he's better? Do you think Flacco has more "moxie" or "intangibles" or some other bullshite?
Flacco('s team) who held the patriots to 13 points advanced one playoff round further than Ryan('s team) who gave up 28 to the 9ers. Is that why people (Saints Fans) think he's better? Do you think Flacco has more "moxie" or "intangibles" or some other bullshite?
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:59 pm to broeho
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Do you think Flacco has more "moxie" or "intangibles" or some other bullshite?
Well if winning playoff games counts as an intangible, then yes.
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FLACCO ISN'T VERY GOOD
Laughable statement.
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:00 pm to LSUZombie
I dont have an issue with flacco getting more $$, but not 7M more than Ryan (or even 20M per year)
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:04 pm to lsu480
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Name ONE QB that had more wins in their first 5 years in the NFL than Joe Flacco has had....ill wait.
So this means Flacco is the best qb in the league, right?
FTR, I hope Flacco gets more money than Ryan. I want Ryan to get as little as possible. QBs taking monster contracts cripple teams. I just think it is ridiculously dumb to say Flacco is a better qb bc rahim morris made the worst play in his career and baltimore is in the super bowl. That's like saying Flacco is better than P Manning bc his team won. Just bc his team wins a lot doesn't mean he is the better qb.
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:06 pm to broeho
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FLACCO ISN'T VERY GOOD. Seriously, go look at flacco's stats.
17,633 yards
60.5 % completion percentage
102-56 TD-INT
7.1 YPA
No wonder Ravens fans were clamoring for Tyrod Taylor.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:07 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Well if winning playoff games counts as an intangible, then yes.
he should use those intangibles to be a good QB in one of those 80 career regular season games. or maybe he doesn't have those intangibles. or maybe those intangibles don't really exist and good qbs are just good qbs.
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Laughable statement.
when your typical season puts you somewhere in the range of the 10-15th best qb stats EVERY SEASON, you aren't very good... unless you have very easy-to-meet qualifications of very good.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:09 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Saints fans rip on Ryan all day long for not producing in the postseason then they'd take him over someone who's won in the postseason every single season of his career?
i try not to rip on RYAN for not winning. wins = team stat
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:10 pm to broeho
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he should use those intangibles to be a good QB in one of those 80 career regular season games.
Because that's where championships are won.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:18 pm to craigbiggio
career stats? haha those things mean nothing without some context. I guess I'll give you seasonal averages
3527 per year. Average
Below Average
20.4 TDs-11.2INTs
average-Below average
i don't know if that is good, or if it really tells me if he's a good qb
I'm sure his early season stats skewed this, so we'll just take his stats for this past season:
3817 Yds: 14th in the league
by the way, stop me when he's VERY GOOD
22 TDs: T-15th in the league... 10 INTs as well
7.19 YPA... 14th in the league
CMP% = 59.7... 19th in the league
QB rating 87.7... 12 in the league
Advanced one more playoff game than ryan.
you frickers are retarded
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17,633 yards
3527 per year. Average
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60.5 % completion percentage
Below Average
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102-56 TD-INT
20.4 TDs-11.2INTs
average-Below average
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7.1 YPA
i don't know if that is good, or if it really tells me if he's a good qb
I'm sure his early season stats skewed this, so we'll just take his stats for this past season:
3817 Yds: 14th in the league
by the way, stop me when he's VERY GOOD
22 TDs: T-15th in the league... 10 INTs as well
7.19 YPA... 14th in the league
CMP% = 59.7... 19th in the league
QB rating 87.7... 12 in the league
Advanced one more playoff game than ryan.
you frickers are retarded
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:19 pm to broeho
7.1 career ypa is good especially for a young player
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