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re: Is Bruce Bochy the best manager in MLB?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:23 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:23 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Clearly they would be better. They would wesr crazy clothes on their road trips. That would account for at least 11-13 more wins
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:27 pm to BCMCubs
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:27 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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If Maddon were managing the Astros what do you think their record would be?
They'd be a minimum 3 games over .500, which is a big deal. Personally, I think the difference would be even bigger.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:31 pm to Floating Change Up
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They'd be a minimum 3 games over .500, which is a big deal. Personally, I think the different would be even bigger
Yeah we are going to have to agree to disagree. There are fundamental problems with the Astros that no manager would be able to fix.
Saying Maddon could make 15-20ish game difference over the course of a season over Hinch seems nuts to me because I fail to see what he would do differently that would make such an enormous impact, but there's no true way to tell who is right or wrong.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:35 pm to Floating Change Up
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over .500, which is a big deal. Personally, I think the difference would be even bigger.
That means Maddon has been worth more 4 wins on the year. Mike Trout for reference has been worth 3.7 WAR.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:38 pm to The Seaward
It all depends on how you're rating Hinch since there isn't a formula for managers. If he's the bottom of the barrel it's a lot more than 4, Astros are 5 games below 500
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:48 pm to doclsu08
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Maddon
Bochy
Showalter
Hurdle
Matheny
HA . I wish
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:50 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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all depends on how you're rating Hinch since there isn't a formula for managers. If he's the bottom of the barrel it's a lot more than 4, Astros are 5 games below 500
Well I was assuming he meant the Astros would be at least 34-31 instead of 30-35. And I assumed Hinch is basically replacement level manager (if such thing exists) in this exercise.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:52 pm to The Seaward
Yeah based on our daily threads I was assuming he was classifying him as below replacement with how much they rail on him Posted on 6/14/16 at 6:11 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Here's my logic: a good manager wins the games he is supposed to win and occasionally wins games that his team is actually over matched.
Hinch has lost a lot of games that statistically should have been wins based on score differential at given points of the game, etc. I can't think of a single game that he has contributed a decision that gave his team a win that they had no business winning. Unless you count some of the extra inning games. Anyway, I admit to having no evidence to support my claims... All just my opinion.
Hinch has lost a lot of games that statistically should have been wins based on score differential at given points of the game, etc. I can't think of a single game that he has contributed a decision that gave his team a win that they had no business winning. Unless you count some of the extra inning games. Anyway, I admit to having no evidence to support my claims... All just my opinion.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 6:19 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Saying Maddon could make 15-20ish game difference over the course of a season over Hinch seems nuts to me because I fail to see what he would do differently that would make such an enormous impact, but there's no true way to tell who is right or wrong.
Yeah, over a season I doubt it would be that high. That said, top tier managers have a way of instilling a stronger mentality which allows the team to overcome adversity. This is where managers such as Maddon excel and managers such as Hinch fail. Hinch is a numbers guy and I don't think the young team is psychologically prepared to overcome slumps/poor performance. Add in the fact that Hinch makes at least one head scratching decision per week that usually cost the Astros the lead, if not a win, then the impact gap between a Maddon and a Hinch grows significantly.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 6:38 am to CelticDog
Mason has had premiere pitching as well. He's made (and lost) one World Series while Bochy has won 3. And it's not like the Giants had then roster of the 98 Yankees.
Maddon is great w/ media.
Maddon is great w/ media.
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 6:40 am
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:26 am to OldSchoolAlpha
The end goal of a club is to win the WS.
Bochy has done that three times.
End of thread.
Bochy has done that three times.
End of thread.
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