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re: Interesting SB stats..........
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:34 pm to F machine
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:34 pm to F machine
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Of course he can't give you facts to back up his opinion. That's why its an opinion.
I have NO prob with his OPINION. It IS WHAT IT IS. But just don't argue with me about what I lived through. Its obvious that this guy is a very young peson that hasn't seen the games I have.
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Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:36 pm to dukke v
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Thats how WINNING teams played BACK then.
In the first Super Bowl, Bart Starr went 16-23 for 250 yards.
In the second Super Bowl, Bart Starr went 13-24 for 202 yards, which was 2/3 of the Packer's offensive output.
In the third Super Bowl, Joe Namath went 17-28 for 206 yards, which was about 60% of his team's offensive output.
In the fourth Super Bowl, Len Dawson went 12-17 for 142 yards, which was over 50% of his team's offensive output.
Your point is not only stupid, but invalid.
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It was one team dominating another even though they had almost the same talent as they had the year before
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Back then you had the same guys on a team for like 8-10 years.
Because they weren't allowed to sign with anyone else they were traded. BTW, the NFL is littered with guys that have been with their teams for 8-10 years. Tom Brady and Eli Manning say what's up.
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When you can dominate another team when they have the same type players, its pretty cool.
Not really.
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BUT AGAIN. I can't help that the game has changed so much over the years
Good because it has gotten better.
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I just don't think the SB has as much luster as it used to
It has more.
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BTW In THAT game Csonka carried the ball 33 times for 145 yds. TELL me a back that could do that in TODAYS GAME.
Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster, Jamaal Charles, Michael Turner, Steven Jackson, MJD, etc.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:42 pm to TheMaverick
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In the first Super Bowl, Bart Starr went 16-23 for 250 yards.
In the second Super Bowl, Bart Starr went 13-24 for 202 yards, which was 2/3 of the Packer's offensive output.
In the third Super Bowl, Joe Namath went 17-28 for 206 yards, which was about 60% of his team's offensive output.
In the fourth Super Bowl, Len Dawson went 12-17 for 142 yards, which was over 50% of his team's offensive output.
GOOD WORK!!!
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Because they weren't allowed to sign with anyone else they were traded. BTW, the NFL is littered with guys that have been with their teams for 8-10 years. Tom Brady and Eli Manning say what's up.
Not like it used to be. ELI??? 10 Years with the Giants???? OK.
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When you can dominate another team when they have the same type players, its pretty cool.
Not really.
It was back then.
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I just don't think the SB has as much luster as it used to
It has more.
Not from a PURE fans standpoint. From a media and TV standpoint?? YES IT HAS. Remember there have been almost 50 SB'S . You are NOT a purist. Which is ok. I am.
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Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster, Jamaal Charles, Michael Turner, Steven Jackson, MJD, etc
So WHY don't they do it????
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:48 pm to dukke v
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So tell me the last time ANY of these guys did it even once
Arian Foster did it twice this year. MJD did it once this year. Gore once this year. Lynch once this year. Not to mention backs catch a lot more out of the backfield currently, so that can be very similar to a carry.
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Let alone three or four times a year
You didn't say that at first. You acted like no one can do it anymore, which they obviously can.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:48 pm to dukke v
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So tell me the last time ANY of these guys did it even once
Went for over 140 yards?
Foster did it 3 times in 2010: Weeks 1, 12, and 17. He did it twice this year: Weeks 4 and 16.
Peterson has done it 10 times in his career.
Turner has done it 8 times in his career.
It's funny you bring up Csonka, because the time you referenced is the only time in his career that he had over 140 rushing yards in a game.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:50 pm to TheMaverick
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Went for over 140 yards?
think he meant rush over 30 times in a game.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:53 pm to F machine
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You acted like no one can do it anymore, which they obviously can
NO they can't. If they could a GOOD FB coach would do that. YES the game has changed. The D 's are bigger and faster and stronger. BUT with a GOOD blocking scheme A back could do this more than once or twicw a year.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:53 pm to dukke v
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Not like it used to be. ELI??? 10 Years with the Giants???? OK.
You said 8-10 years. This is 8th year with the Giants. I seriously doubt he'll be with a different team next year or the year after.
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It was back then.
No it wasn't.
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Not from a PURE fans standpoint. From a media and TV standpoint?? YES IT HAS. Remember there have been almost 50 SB'S . You are NOT a purist. Which is ok. I am.
From a fan's standpoint there was never been as much luster around a Super Bowl. In the late-60's, early 70's, MLB was the king of pro sports in our nation. The NFL is far and away the most popular sport in our nation today.
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So WHY don't they do it????
They do. Why didn't Csonka ever rush for over 140 yards in the regular season? If he was such a physical back, then why did he never have more than 220 carries in a season - and that was in a 16 game season? Hell the most he had in a 14 game season was 219. That's about 15.5 carries a game. Backs today are far more skilled and far more durable than their 1960's and 1970's counterparts.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:54 pm to F machine
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think he meant rush over 30 times in a game.
Csonka only did that once in his entire career.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:55 pm to dukke v
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NO they can't. If they could a GOOD FB coach would do that. YES the game has changed. The D 's are bigger and faster and stronger. BUT with a GOOD blocking scheme A back could do this more than once or twicw a year.
They do it far more often than Larry Csonka every did and he didn't have to worry about 2 extra games each season.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:57 pm to TheMaverick
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It's funny you bring up Csonka, because the time you referenced is the only time in his career that he had over 140 rushing yards in a game.
When it counted most!!!
Marcus Allen was not a 140 yard a game guy. He went off the charts in the SB against the Redskins. [ Of Course YOU may have not been born yet].
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Turner has done it 8 times in his career.
WOW!! I am IMPRESSED. And Atlanta hasn't won aplayoff game since when????
Posted on 1/26/12 at 6:58 pm to dukke v
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NO they can't. If they could a GOOD FB coach would do that. YES the game has changed. The D 's are bigger and faster and stronger. BUT with a GOOD blocking scheme A back could do this more than once or twicw a year.
They obviously can, because I just gave you plenty of examples of backs who did it. Two more, Lesean McCoy did it once this year and Michael Bush did it twice. Just because they don't do it often doesn't mean they can't. The NFL is a pass first league now, so obviously not a ton of backs are going to do it.
You keep changing your argument everytime. First it's a back can't do it. I showed you they can. Then it's they can't do it 3-4 times a year. Now it's back to they can't do it, even though I showed you they can.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 7:02 pm to dukke v
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When it counted most!!!
So because he wore down a team at the end of a game in which his team was up by 24 points going into the 4th I'm suppose to be impressed? You aren't going to give any credit to the fact that the defense produced two turnovers?
Get out of here old man. You don't know crap yet you want to run your mouth like you do.
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WOW!! I am IMPRESSED. And Atlanta hasn't won aplayoff game since when????
He's a better back than Larry Csonka ever was and he's doing it in a MUCH TOUGHER era than any in NFL HISTORY! FACT!
Posted on 1/26/12 at 7:03 pm to TheMaverick
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From a fan's standpoint there was never been as much luster around a Super Bowl. In the late-60's, early 70's, MLB was the king of pro sports in our nation. The NFL is far and away the most popular sport in our nation today
Back in the day the SB had a better rating than the WS. IT WAS THE GAME. Its still THE GAME with a crowd of people that don't really care about the game. Only a reason to have a party. Think about it.
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If he was such a physical back, then why did he never have more than 220 carries in a season - and that was in a 16 game season? Hell the most he had in a 14 game season was 219. That's about 15.5 carries a game. Backs today are far more skilled and far more durable than their 1960's and 1970's counterparts.
Jim BROWN says HOWDY!! Gayle Sayers says Howdy. OJ says Howdy, John Riggins says frick OFF.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 7:05 pm to dukke v
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Back in the day the SB had a better rating than the WS. IT WAS THE GAME. Its still THE GAME with a crowd of people that don't really care about the game. Only a reason to have a party. Think about it.
So you think everyone who watched in back in the day cared about the game? Lol. Old and naive much?
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Jim BROWN says HOWDY!! Gayle Sayers says Howdy. OJ says Howdy, John Riggins says frick OFF.
I'll give you Jim Brown and OJ, but the other two are no better than any of the guys listed in this thread.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 7:07 pm to dukke v
The Raiders Tampa Bay Super Bowl in 2003 was the beginning of the end of great super bowls.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 7:07 pm to TheMaverick
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So because he wore down a team at the end of a game in which his team was up by 24 points going into the 4th I'm suppose to be impressed? You aren't going to give any credit to the fact that the defense produced two turnovers
He started dominating the game from the get-go. AGAIN. THIS IS ABOUT FOOTBALL. Miamis O-line was very dominate from the time the game started.
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Get out of here old man. You don't know crap yet you want to run your mouth like you do.
REALLY. LOOK STAT man. The MINNESOTA VIKES were a great team in 1973 and yet got dominated up front by the Dolphins. FACT. That was Shulas gameplan executed to perfection. Wanna argue that???
Posted on 1/26/12 at 7:09 pm to Paul Allen
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The Raiders Tampa Bay Super Bowl in 2003 was the beginning of the end of great super bowls.
5 of the Super Bowls since then have ended in a one score games.
Posted on 1/26/12 at 7:10 pm to dukke v
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He started dominating the game from the get-go.
lol no.
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Miamis O-line was very dominate from the time the game started.
This combined with their defensive play was the reason they won.
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REALLY. LOOK STAT man. The MINNESOTA VIKES were a great team in 1973 and yet got dominated up front by the Dolphins. FACT. That was Shulas gameplan executed to perfection. Wanna argue that???
Your point?
Posted on 1/26/12 at 7:10 pm to TheMaverick
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He's a better back than Larry Csonka ever was and he's doing it in a MUCH TOUGHER era than any in NFL HISTORY! FACT!
YOUNG PUNK ALTERS ARE MY FAVS!!!!! Its a SHAME that YOU had to GOOGLE or look up EVERYTHING you said in this thread when I know I have said everything from memory!!! Have a great day DIPSHIT.
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