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re: Incognito and Martin: An Insider’s Story
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:33 am to SPEEDY
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:33 am to SPEEDY
I'm not sure people realize how ridiculous they sound when they argue, "Well, it's just part of the culture." "That's just football, man!"
fricked up behavior is fricked up behavior. We can justify it any way we like. It's still fricked up and wrong. Arguing that "Well the same thing happened to players x, y, and z as happened to Martin, what's the big deal?" only illustrates how fricked up it truly is.
fricked up behavior is fricked up behavior. We can justify it any way we like. It's still fricked up and wrong. Arguing that "Well the same thing happened to players x, y, and z as happened to Martin, what's the big deal?" only illustrates how fricked up it truly is.
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Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:35 am to A2
After calling for so many to be banned, I think you're the one who needs a timeout now
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:35 am to OBUDan
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fricked up behavior is fricked up behavior.
what behavior? a rousing phone call?
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:37 am to Samso
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After calling for so many to be banned, I think you're the one who needs a timeout now
That's nice to know.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:39 am to A2
You need to quit acting like you understand what went on. You don't. You just want to have a passionate opinion about something
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:46 am to St Augustine
First link:
"Although the researchers accept that bullying can be damaging to children, leading to depression and anxiety, those who are not afraid to stand up for themselves can benefit from being picked on."
Second link:
You do realize that is dealing with evolutionary, and not sociological issues?
Third link:
You do realize that the article is saying anti-bullying programs lead to more bullying?
Fourth link:
You do realize that this study is talking about paternal involvement, and that if it is lacking, it leads to increased bullying?
"Multiple regression analysis showed that low father involvement and peer victimization contributed significantly and independently to low levels of life satisfaction in adolescent boys."
"Although the researchers accept that bullying can be damaging to children, leading to depression and anxiety, those who are not afraid to stand up for themselves can benefit from being picked on."
Second link:
You do realize that is dealing with evolutionary, and not sociological issues?
Third link:
You do realize that the article is saying anti-bullying programs lead to more bullying?
Fourth link:
You do realize that this study is talking about paternal involvement, and that if it is lacking, it leads to increased bullying?
"Multiple regression analysis showed that low father involvement and peer victimization contributed significantly and independently to low levels of life satisfaction in adolescent boys."
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:48 am to genro
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You need to quit acting like you understand what went on. You don't. You just want to have a passionate opinion about something
I, like you, don't know what went on. I can, based on corollary evidence regarding Incognito's mental health, make better conclusions than you at this juncture.
I do have an opinion about bullying in general, and have addressed it as such.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:50 am to A2
You don't know that it was bullying. To just say Incognito was a predator and Martin was a victim is a vast oversimplification and shows that you haven't been paying attention.
And you don't know a damn thing about Martin's mental health.
And you don't know a damn thing about Martin's mental health.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:52 am to genro
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You don't know that it was bullying. To just say Incognito was a predator and Martin was a victim is a vast oversimplification and shows that you haven't been paying attention.
And you don't know a damn thing about Martin's mental health.
Paying attention to what? Sportscenter?
And yes, I do not know a damn thing about Martin's mental health. And neither do you.
But I definitely know more about Incognito's mental health than you do.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:54 am to A2
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You do realize that this study is talking about paternal involvement, and that if it is lacking, it leads to increased bullying?
Which was was I suggested earlier that you asked for support? I believe parental involvement/support to be paramount in Overcoming a bully like situation and aid in the child's development.
quote:
"Although the researchers accept that bullying can be damaging to children, leading to depression and anxiety, those who are not afraid to stand up for themselves can benefit from being picked on."
As was said before. Overcoming a bully or a situation of conflict is beneficial to a young person. I believe a child has a much better opportunity to do this with a solid family background.
quote:
You do realize that is dealing with evolutionary, and not sociological issues?
I'm simply showing you that bullying is nothing new, nor will it ever go away despite Ellen Degeneres and Angelina Jolie crying about it.
quote:
You do realize that the article is saying anti-bullying programs lead to more bullying?
Which makes this entire bleeding heart cause pretty silly now doesn't it?
But I don't put a ton of stock in many studies. The bottom line is bullying isn't going away.... Ever. Instead of fighting the impossible battle of trying to end it, we may as well teach our kids how to handle it and be confident people.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:55 am to A2
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But I definitely know more about Incognito's mental health than you do.
No rational person thinks bullying is good. I'm not gonna defend bullying. Bullying is bad.
It just seems like you're ignoring certain things so you can use this to fit your anti-bullying agenda.
This post was edited on 11/7/13 at 10:55 am
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:56 am to A2
quote:To be fair, standing up for yourself isn't only relegated to fighting the bully.
those who are not afraid to stand up for themselves can benefit from being picked on
Posted on 11/7/13 at 10:58 am to A2
Besides the voicemail and the lunch prank, what exactly did he do so terrible to Ms. Martin?
Martin has emotional issues. Plain and simple.
Ricky is a highly agitated individual and the NFL is actually more geared for that versus tender feelings.
Man, if the press knew about the holy hell that goes on in college locker rooms.......crazy fricked up shite waaaaayyyyy worse than a mean-spirited voicemail. I'm waiting for where they tied his arse up, shaved his head, coated his arse in Icy Hot, etc.
Man-up Marty.
Martin has emotional issues. Plain and simple.
Ricky is a highly agitated individual and the NFL is actually more geared for that versus tender feelings.
Man, if the press knew about the holy hell that goes on in college locker rooms.......crazy fricked up shite waaaaayyyyy worse than a mean-spirited voicemail. I'm waiting for where they tied his arse up, shaved his head, coated his arse in Icy Hot, etc.
Man-up Marty.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:01 am to CharlesLSU
quote:Who knows, but just because it hasn't been reported on, doesn't mean nothing happened.
Besides the voicemail and the lunch prank, what exactly did he do so terrible to Ms. Martin?
quote:And that is an issue with the NFL locker room structure, like it or not.
icky is a highly agitated individual and the NFL is actually more geared for that versus tender feelings.
quote:You'd think the Dolphins at some point should have known about this in the last 2 years, right? Did they offer any assistance? Or did they tell teammates to toughen him up and tell his agent he should punch those teammates giving him a hard time? All fair questions.
Martin has emotional issues. Plain and simple
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:02 am to A2
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You don't have to opine on everything. Restraint is a virtue.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:04 am to shel311
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Who knows, but just because it hasn't been reported on, doesn't mean nothing happened.
Doesn't mean it did either. But that sure as hell didn't stop the speculation and outrage.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:07 am to St Augustine
Bullying and conflict are 2 completely seperate things. Conflict can be good to promote change. There is nothing positive about bullying. For all you people promoting bullying, answer one question.... would you want your kid to be bullied by somebody like richie incognito
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:09 am to St Augustine
quote:Of course it doesn't.
Doesn't mean it did either. But that sure as hell didn't stop the speculation and outrage
But to be fair, before the voicemails came out, there wasn't necessarily rage, but the majority of the talk was about how soft Martin was, so it's not fair on both sides.
Plus, if you check the post I was quoting, I think you can clearly see that dude had his mind made up on the story, which I why I posted the part that you quoted.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 11:10 am to St Augustine
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You do realize that this study is talking about paternal involvement, and that if it is lacking, it leads to increased bullying?
Which was was I suggested earlier that you asked for support? I believe parental involvement/support to be paramount in Overcoming a bully like situation and aid in the child's development.
I completely believe this. Positive parental or mentor involvement from adults is always beneficial.
quote:
"Although the researchers accept that bullying can be damaging to children, leading to depression and anxiety, those who are not afraid to stand up for themselves can benefit from being picked on."
As was said before. Overcoming a bully or a situation of conflict is beneficial to a young person. I believe a child has a much better opportunity to do this with a solid family background.
Again, I agree with your opinion somewhat. But "conflict resolution" does not need to be punching someone else. More studies prove that than to the contrary.
quote:
You do realize that is dealing with evolutionary, and not sociological issues?
I'm simply showing you that bullying is nothing new, nor will it ever go away despite Ellen Degeneres and Angelina Jolie crying about it.
I never said it would. But to look at the development of a species over a long period of time for survival does not justify bullying in the present.
quote:
You do realize that the article is saying anti-bullying programs lead to more bullying?
Which makes this entire bleeding heart cause pretty silly now doesn't it?
Deflection on your part from linking a contrary quote.
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