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re: In golf, why can't you move your ball out of a fairway divot
Posted on 6/15/12 at 10:51 pm to bunky
Posted on 6/15/12 at 10:51 pm to bunky
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personally if I'm on a root or very close to the root I will move it if I risk hitting it with the club head. Being that true of a sportsman is not important to me to frick up my wrists
Fractured my wrist in a tournament 2 years ago thinking I could miss the root. I didn't.
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Posted on 6/15/12 at 10:52 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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Yea? Well good for Happy Gillmo-my-god!
one of my favorite quotes! say it all the time
Posted on 6/15/12 at 10:52 pm to TIGRLEE
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Yes. And if it happens to land in the a divot in the fairway you should be able to move it. As I've said twice.... That's why you have fairway and rough.
So using this logic, if your ball is sitting down in the fairway, you should be able to bump it? In other words, if your lie isn't absolutely fricking perfect, you should make it so?
Have you ever heard of golf being a game of integrity?
Posted on 6/15/12 at 10:52 pm to OldTigahFot
You can't repair a spike mark? Guys tap their putter on shite all the time. Tom Watson must bend over 10 times picking up and brushing marks and loose impediments
Posted on 6/15/12 at 10:52 pm to hehateme2285
Broke my 3 iron (steel shaft) hitting a root. Head came right off. Broke a graphite 5-iron the same way in high school.
I don't mess with that anymore.
I don't mess with that anymore.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 10:53 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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You can't repair a spike mark? Guys tap their putter on shite all the time. Tom Watson must bend over 10 times picking up and brushing marks and loose impediments
You can move loose objects, they changed the rule that you can use a hat, towel, etc. to move them too. But only ball marks can be repaired
Posted on 6/15/12 at 10:57 pm to unbeWEAVEable
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So using this logic, if your ball is sitting down in the fairway, you should be able to bump it? In other words, if your lie isn't absolutely fricking perfect, you should make it so?
Have you ever heard of golf being a game of integrity?
Wtf are you talking about?
Certainly you didn't come to that conclusion after reading what iposted, maybe you should go back and start over, seems to me like you missed something.
How you equate a ball sitting down in the fairway and a divot filled with sand is beyond me.
This post was edited on 6/15/12 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:00 pm to TIGRLEE
Well for one, they are both lies in the fairway.
I lie in a sand filled divot is not a perfect lie, and neither is a ball sitting down in the fairway.
The lie in the divot is tough shite, yea. But that's the rub of the green. I came to that conclusion because I'm being realistic...stop whining.
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that just because you catch the fairway doesn't mean you Gould be rewarded by any means...all a fairway is is shorter grass. That's it. It's the easiest to hit out of. Hazards still run through it. There are still trees in it. It's just as unreliable in that same sense. The course has imperfections. They must be dealt with, not bitched about.
I lie in a sand filled divot is not a perfect lie, and neither is a ball sitting down in the fairway.
The lie in the divot is tough shite, yea. But that's the rub of the green. I came to that conclusion because I'm being realistic...stop whining.
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fairway
I guess what I'm trying to say is that just because you catch the fairway doesn't mean you Gould be rewarded by any means...all a fairway is is shorter grass. That's it. It's the easiest to hit out of. Hazards still run through it. There are still trees in it. It's just as unreliable in that same sense. The course has imperfections. They must be dealt with, not bitched about.
This post was edited on 6/15/12 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:01 pm to Tiger1242
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I don't see why, if they want to make it fair, you aren't allowed to take it and drop it even with or less that a club length behind the divot in the fairway. The USGA is all about keeping the game "fair" as they say, having to hit out of a divot when you hit the ball in the fairway is not "fair".
Plus you could make the argument it's a man made hazard...
because the Royal and Ancient says so. Scots. their game and their rules.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:04 pm to unbeWEAVEable
I play golf 2-3 times a week. Year around.
I can't remember the last time it happened to me.
I'm not whining ,im staing a fact. It's a bullshite rule.
You should ot be penalized by a man made hazzard in the fairway.
It's really not that difficult concept to grasp.
Once again that's why golf courses have fairways and rough.
I can't remember the last time it happened to me.
I'm not whining ,im staing a fact. It's a bullshite rule.
You should ot be penalized by a man made hazzard in the fairway.
It's really not that difficult concept to grasp.
Once again that's why golf courses have fairways and rough.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:10 pm to TIGRLEE
See my edit.
I grasp what you are saying. I'm just siding with the people who do this shite for a living. These guys know what they are doing, and I'm sure the rules committees do too.
Argue your point at a tournament. You will lose every time, even when a local rules committee can overrule a USGA guideline.
I grasp what you are saying. I'm just siding with the people who do this shite for a living. These guys know what they are doing, and I'm sure the rules committees do too.
Argue your point at a tournament. You will lose every time, even when a local rules committee can overrule a USGA guideline.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:11 pm to TIGRLEE
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You should ot be penalized by a man made hazzard in the fairway.
So if your ball hits a rake by a sand trap and goes in the bunker you should be able to drop outside the bunker?
Or if you hit the rake and it keeps you out of the bunker you should have to drop in the bunker?
The divot is in play. It's part of the course.
If someone didn't rake the bunker and you end up in a footprint, should you get a drop? Are you going to argue with your opponent that it's a footprint or simply a funny mark in the sand?
This post was edited on 6/15/12 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:12 pm to TIGRLEE
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You should ot be penalized by a man made hazzard in the fairway.
Exactly.
It is like being forced to hit from the crosswalk.
A ball sitting "down" in the fairway has nothing to do with it. That could be undulation. A footprint. No one is saying to take it farther than that. Why a divot was not considered a man made hazard to begin with is a good question too?
I just feel the rule was a mistake that needs correcting.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:13 pm to noonan
Dude. 
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:13 pm to TIGRLEE
Divots are a very dicey subject, yes it's the same as hitting it down the middle and drawing a bad lie, but it's also a made made obstruction in the middle of the fairway...bottom line, if you can't overcome a sand filled divot, you aren't good enough to compete anyways
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:15 pm to TIGRLEE
Not that I agree with noonan, but you do understand that a bunker is a man-made hazard, right?
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:15 pm to TIGRLEE
How is what I'm talking about any different?
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:18 pm to noonan
Noonan, while I agree with having to play from divots, all of your examples are illustrations of where not to hit it, the fairway is the goal target
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:20 pm to unbeWEAVEable
I know you'd lose if you tried arguing.
IMO doesn't make it any less of a crap rule.
How pissed would you be if you were palyng in some meaningful match and some tard took a crater out of the fairway and didn't bother fixing it and your ball somehow found it's way down in it?
I just don't believe a golfer should be penalized for hitting the fairway.
That's all I'm saying.
IMO doesn't make it any less of a crap rule.
How pissed would you be if you were palyng in some meaningful match and some tard took a crater out of the fairway and didn't bother fixing it and your ball somehow found it's way down in it?
I just don't believe a golfer should be penalized for hitting the fairway.
That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:21 pm to Ford Frenzy
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Message Posted by Ford Frenzy Noonan, while I agree with having to play from divots, all of your examples are illustrations of where not to hit it, the fairway is the goal target
So my example of hitting a yard marker in the middle of the fairway and it kicking your ball into the water is not an example of your target? It's the middle of the fairway.
This post was edited on 6/15/12 at 11:24 pm
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