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re: If you dropped the current Colorado Rockies into the CWS how would they do?

Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:31 pm to
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He literally agreed with me


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Not really. LSU had two players, Skenes and Crews. Wake had one, a pitcher. You may could have Skenes or Lowder hold the Rockies to a couple runs, but you also are going to have to score to win the game. Crews isn't doing it by himself, and Wake didn't really have any position players on that level. You're also talking about playing at a stadium in Omaha where college teams struggle to score against other college teams. (i.e., LSU and Wake went 10.5 scoreless until a walkoff home run in the bottom of the 11th inning). Now imagine a college team facing nothing but MLB pitchers in a game and trying to score enough runs to beat them.


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by lsufball19




This is embarrassing, even for you
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 4:32 pm
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:32 pm to
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Umm, Florida had Langford and caglione. What would you call that?

and who on their pitching staff is holding an MLB team close to scoreless for 9 innings? Hurston Waldrep is the closest thing and he's gotten rocked by MLB hitters, already got demoted, and has been pretty bad in AAA so far this year

There's a problem with Lowder too. He never pitched deep into games at Wake. He was always done at 100 pitches. SO you'd have to figure out some bullpen guys to hold off MLB hitters.

Skenes is really just the unicorn in this situation that had the physical ability to possibly throw a shutout against MLB hitting and hope some team mates can manufacture a run by some luck
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 4:34 pm
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:32 pm to
Are we assuming the Rockies play by the same rules as everyone else?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:33 pm to
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Not really. LSU had two players, Skenes and Crews. Wake had one, a pitcher. You may could have Skenes or Lowder hold the Rockies to a couple runs, but you also are going to have to score to win the game. Crews isn't doing it by himself, and Wake didn't really have any position players on that level. You're also talking about playing at a stadium in Omaha where college teams struggle to score against other college teams. (i.e., LSU and Wake went 10.5 scoreless until a walkoff home run in the bottom of the 11th inning). Now imagine a college team facing nothing but MLB pitchers in a game and trying to score enough runs to beat them.
Right, the Rockies would be heavily favored

They also had a game this year they gave up almost 30 runs

Yes, to mlb players, but awful performances also happen


Legit question, how big of a talent gap is lsu and Little Rock? I’d venture it’s pretty similar to an mlb team to an elite college team

Interested to hear your take.

Also interested to see mingos emoji train response
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:35 pm to
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and who on their pitching staff is holding an MLB team close to scoreless for 9 innings? Hurston Waldrep is the closest thing and he's gotten rocked by MLB hitters, already got demoted, and has been pretty bad in AAA so far this year


This argument is so stupid, it’s unbelievable that we’re evening having it.

BEST CASE. SCENARIO you have a team like 2023 LSU with an MLB ready arm and a team that mashed all year.

5 or 6 of the hitters probably aren’t even making solid contact in the game and the other 3 or 4 aren’t going to be able to consistently hit enough to put runs on their board. So you’d have to have your very best offensive day to likely even get on the board, and your MLB ready pitcher (who’s still in college - with 2 years less development than current day) has to have his best day on the mound…. And you still lose 999/1000 times, at least
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:35 pm to
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I’d venture it’s pretty similar to an mlb team to an elite college team


I wouldn't. LSU has very good college players on their team every year that never get past High A baseball. The gap between LSU and an MLB team is not remotely the same as the gap between a bad D1 team and a good D1 team
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:36 pm to
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Legit question, how big of a talent gap is lsu and Little Rock? I’d venture it’s pretty similar to an mlb team to an elite college team


Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:41 pm to
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I wouldn't. LSU has very good college players on their team every year that never get past High A baseball. The gap between LSU and an MLB team is not remotely the same as the gap between a bad D1 team and a good D1 team


How many lsu players will make the majors/aaa/aa/a ball

How many players from LR will even get drafted?

It’s a massive discrepancy. This isn’t just picking a small school, this is picking a team with an RPI in the 240s that won 8 total games in the OVC
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Zendog
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:46 pm to
you're an idiot
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:50 pm to
Another tidbit, Aaron judge, the best hitter in MLB, actually did play college. And not even in a great league.

He hit .345 with a .529 slugging for his career in college

Obviously he improved, but even the best fricking guys don’t just murder stupidly crush homers 1,000 percent of the time

Would the Rockies win a stupid high percentage of games? Absolutely

Would they be the favorites every game? Absolutely

Would they never lose? I don’t think so. And because of that and because of how Omaha is I don’t think it’s a guarantee the same way football and basketball is a 110% slam dunk
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:51 pm to
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How many lsu players will make the majors/aaa/aa/a ball

From LSU’s 2023 team, maybe 3 make the MLB an d it might just be Skenes and Crews. And that team is kind of an outlier. From this year’s team that number could very well be 1 or none for all we know. And there are “glue guys” every year that don’t play pro ball. Milazzo and Beloso immediately come to mind.

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How many players from LR will even get drafted?

How many will play low level minor league baseball? I’d guess more than 3
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:55 pm to
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If you dropped the current Colorado Rockies into the CWS how would they do?



Even 9-50, if they have an MLB pitching rotation, they would never lose one single game. Their hitters would absolutely feast.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 4:59 pm to
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From LSU’s 2023 team, maybe 3 make the MLB. And that team is kind of an outlier. From this year’s team that number could very well be 1 or none for all we know. And there are “glue guys” every year that don’t play pro ball. Milazzo and Beloso immediately come to mind.


He said he wanted your opinion and then when you didn’t agree with him, he wanted to argue about it
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:00 pm to
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And because of that and because of how Omaha


You keep repeating this without acknowledging the fact that it’s college teams playing other college teams
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:02 pm to
In Omaha you are only going to get 6 ish games. Thats such a small arse sample size for baseball

It’s why the ops answer isn’t 100% yes

If it was 7 game series with any single team or hell even a 3 game series with any team it’s undoubtedly 100% yes
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:02 pm to
LSU’s best team in that regard was 2009. Ranaudo, Coleman, Mahtook, Schimpf Austin Nola, and Lemahieu all made the show. But none of those dudes were fast track level players either, and most only had a cup of coffee in the majors
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:03 pm to
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It’s why the ops answer isn’t 100% yes


Right, it’s about 99.99% IF you have a generational college team.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:13 pm to
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But none of those dudes were fast track level players either, and most only had a cup of coffee in the majors
Hijack moment

Would you take Matt Clark and Blake dean over Judge starting a college team? (You are getting their college aged bodies)
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted by vidtiger23
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:32 pm to
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Back when professional football was a part time job. The modern teams would murder any college team.

I was referring to baseball not football. I agree that a pro football team would do that everytime. I do not agree that the same applies to baseball.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Would you take Matt Clark and Blake dean over Judge starting a college team? (You are getting their college aged bodies)

As college players, yes. Judge wasn’t even close to what he became when he was at Fresno. Judge hit 18 HRs in 3 years in college. Dean and Clark hit more by themselves in 2008 alone
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