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re: If the XFL allowed 18 year olds to play
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:37 pm to Placebeaux
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:37 pm to Placebeaux
Exactly. No one is gonna tune in to watch the former third string rb from Boise state play in the xfl. You gotta have marketable players that people will want to support and tune in to see. The XFL won’t ever be able to do that imo.
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:42 pm to Placebeaux
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If the money was right they would go. S*** 90% of LSU's roster his kids just waiting to go pro
The money is already right for star hs basketball players to go to europe for a year and they are still choosing to go to college. The only way he could convince a star hs kid to go is thye would have to pay close to a million dollars and that is not happening. The league 17 years ago paying guys 50-70k a season folded after one season. And as I said in my last statement they would have to take the usfl approach and pay millions of dollars out the gate. And Vince doesn't have that kind of money where he could pay 300-500 million dollar in salaries to all the players. He would have to have each teamhave its own owner running independent of each team. Which I doubt he will do Bc he wants all the power and having 10-15 other people owning each team, they have the power not him. He is a promoter at heart and all he knows is absolute control.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:44 pm to tigermike5
At best this is a spring/summer league that is a step below the Canadian Football League.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:50 pm to tigermike5
He is going to have to attract other rich people to buy teams and put money up. That's how the NFL does it it's not just one guy it's 30 something billionaires doing this. I'm sure Vince can find more billionaires worldwide that would be interested
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:54 pm to JBeam
And people forget the NFL had NFL Europe which was young nflers playing against each other in the spring/summer and ratings were abysmal. And this was players that had a shot to play in the league, now think taking the guy that couldn't make that roster and they are expecting a success, lol won't happen. They would have to take the usfl approach and spend a lot of money on players on the front end, the only problem is the NFL is much more powerful today than 30 years ago, they will just tell fox, cbs, NBC you want to keep your NFL coverage than you or none of your sister networks will not show xfl games. And I bet there is stipulation in those tv contracts where the NFL can hold the to it.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:00 pm to tigermike5
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The money is already right for star hs basketball players to go to europe for a year and they are still choosing to go to college. The only way he could convince a star hs kid to go is thye would have to pay close to a million dollars and that is not happening. The league 17 years ago paying guys 50-70k a season folded after one season. And as I said in my last statement they would have to take the usfl approach and pay millions of dollars out the gate. And Vince doesn't have that kind of money where he could pay 300-500 million dollar in salaries to all the players. He would have to have each teamhave its own owner running independent of each team. Which I doubt he will do Bc he wants all the power and having 10-15 other people owning each team, they have the power not him. He is a promoter at heart and all he knows is absolute control.
True. But there is a difference between going to a foreign country where you don't speak the language and have to adapt to a completely different culture vs. just playing in a (potentially) different US city. If there were an XFL for basketball in the US you might see some of the top HS talent feel differently (that is assuming the colleges can't pay more under the table that the league would pay)
The number to convince top HS football talent to choose college for 3 years over the XFL would have to be more that $35k, $50k, etc., but I don't think it would have to be a million. Particularly if they can ultimately jump to the NFL in 1-2 years vs. the 3 they have to stay in college.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:00 pm to Placebeaux
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He is going to have to attract other rich people to buy teams and put money up. That's how the NFL does it it's not just one guy it's 30 something billionaires doing this. I'm sure Vince can find more billionaires worldwide that would be interested
Already said that, but than he doesn't have the power of the league anymore, and McMahon is al about power. Plus what billionaire would join in alliance with Vinny mac, when they could join each other and do it without him, there is too much risk involved and those guys don't just throw their money away why it hasn't been done yet.. more than likely if he gets other owners, it will be people like a musician that is maybe worth a few million, ex athletes, be people that are shitty with money.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:03 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Doug Flutie was the biggest name gotten by the USFL in terms of recognition and also because he was signed by Trump's Generals team. As far as playing ability Young or Walker were the stars
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:03 pm to Alt26
quote:You mean the D league? Top HS talent still goes with CBB over that nonsense. Hmm go to UNC or UK for a year or go to BFE Idaho for a 25k salary.
True. But there is a difference between going to a foreign country where you don't speak the language and have to adapt to a completely different culture vs. just playing in a (potentially) different US city. If there were an XFL for basketball in the US you might see some of the top HS talent feel differently (that is assuming the colleges can't pay more under the table that the league would pay)
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:06 pm to Alt26
quote:I bet it's closer to a million than you think. For one thing, player development in the XFL would have to clearly better than CFB.
The number to convince top HS football talent to choose college for 3 years over the XFL would have to be more that $35k, $50k, etc., but I don't think it would have to be a million. Particularly if they can ultimately jump to the NFL in 1-2 years vs. the 3 they have to stay in college.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:15 pm to Placebeaux
quote:I will not watch XFL if they try to ruin college football. I suspect a vast majority of CFB fans will do the same.
f the XFL allowed 18 year olds to play
This would give them a competitive advantage to attract the 5-4 star players right out of high school.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:23 pm to Chicken
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I will not watch XFL if they try to ruin college football. I suspect a vast majority of CFB fans will do the same.
College Football is becoming more and more like the NFL every year. Half time show at the championship game? It's ridiculously corporate.
Just the overall presentation and feel is completely different from 2005.
#NotMyCollegeFootball
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:29 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:So the Kendrick Lamar concert in Olympic Park rubbed you the wrong way?
College Football is becoming more and more like the NFL every year. Half time show at the championship game? It's ridiculously corporate.
quote:Because it's better.
Just the overall presentation and feel is completely different from 2005.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:40 pm to SeeeeK
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The NFL would be smart to partner with XFL
Hell no. Let it fail again instead of legitimatizing it.
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they could lend coaches, asst coaches to head coach, position coaches to teach.
CFb coaches are about winning to save their jobs, not developing their OT to be NFL lineman, only to learn their simplest systems to work for them to win.
OL, WR, and Qb play has suffered because of CFb systems and kids not being developed into NFL talent.
There were weeks, where the OL play in NFl was so bad, that one week, 6 teams had historic bad grades, were talking about worst ever.
CFB coaches are teaching to win, and have systems that helps kids develop, others have systems that enable them to be a stud in their system, useless for NFL teams.
The NFL would make it's own minor league if it wants it that bad.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:44 pm to JBeam
Correct... but the USFL'S prize was Hershel Walker......
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:50 pm to JBeam
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Because it's better.
You honestly believe the CFB product is better in 2017 than it was in 2005? Good lord you're a fricking moron. I know your schtick is to be opposite anyone that's against the entity (NFL, NBA, CFB), but good lord man.
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So the Kendrick Lamar concert in Olympic Park rubbed you the wrong way?
I can't speak to that because I didn't watch it. Has nothing to do with who was performing (although I do not like that type of music).
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:52 pm to TomRollTideRitter
quote:A pretty good bit
between 18 and like 24
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:57 pm to PearlJam
I'm not sure how viable this idea is but if it actually forces the NCAA and NFL to get a clue then I'm all for it.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 1:58 pm to lsupride87
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If Vince can steal some of the big 5 star talent at 18, and pay them big money,
Yeah that is what we need.
Let's ruin college football to hurt the NFL.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:16 pm to Chicken
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if they try to ruin college football
I dont think it would ruin college football at all. I think college football would return to its roots of scholar athletes playing football to earn their degree. Let the kids who have athletic talent but lack classroom skills have a shot at something better. Who are we to say your nothing without a college education? Shiiiit I know a many millionaires and business owners without college degrees. Its overrated I tell you.
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