re: If Messi and C. Ronaldo are considered to be the two best...

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Henry
Iniesta
Arshavin

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Xavi is an amazing player also, but has to make some of the stupidest decisions at times and has horrid touch on the ball when shooting. I can't begin to count the number of blown chances on goal he had just in the Champions League.

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I agree with this. Someone earlier mentioned Xavi having more assists than Iniesta. Xavi takes more chances with his passes. He's a lot more hit or miss in terms of connecting on passes than Iniesta is. To me, I'd take someone with consistency in connecting the ball, rather than someone who will make the spectacular pass, but miss a lot of them. This is all personal preference of course, and I don't fault anyone who would say that Xavi is better than Iniesta.

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Dumbest post Ive ever seen - no doubt about it. Lampard is not in the discussion at all.

As for Gerrard, in terms of an all around player, Gerrard is a better player. In terms of doing what they're supposed to do - Iniesta is by far the better player. Gerrard is a jack of all trades type of player. Does everything very well, but nothing super spectacular. I'll take Iniesta's distributing over Gerrard's all arounded play. Yes, Iniesta is just that good at distributing.

BTW to use goals as the standard to judge a center mid, is beyond stupid.

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Lampard can't be in the discussion? He leads Iniesta last year in the two statistics I want my center mid to have high stats in. Both Gerrard and Lampard had more assists than Iniesta and Gerrard scored 4 times as many goals and Lampard scored 3 times as many goals. I would also add that Lampard's lone striker most of the year lead the the EPL in goals last season... but he can't distribute the ball... right, it's only illustrated in the fact that he created more goals than Iniesta did last year.

I'm not knocking him at all... I think he is an EXCELLENT player for the team he plays on and the style Barcelona plays. I can't however put him in the same category as Gerrard, Xavi, Pirlo, Lampard. He's not there yet. He needs some work on his defensive game as well... I put Ribery in that category as well.

Oh, and why can't I bring up goals? You win the game by scoring goals. Iniesta is 100% an offensive weapon and he neither creates nor scores more goals than anyone I have listed. He's not the best midfielder on his team, he's not the best midfielder for his country, and he surely is not the best center mid in the world. There will never be a team that can afford to have the best center mid in the world ride the bench in a Champions League Final until the second half.

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I would put Petr Cech in that argument the last few years

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the last few years his star has fallen

i've seen cech routinely make some retarded decisions

Kaka
Xavi
Iniesta

Based on their performances during the most recent twelve months.

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Kaka
Xavi
Iniesta

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can you guys list what country these players are from?

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