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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:31 am to
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:31 am to
yeah im the unintelligent one who is slinging 3rd grade insults left and right. oh wait that's you.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:31 am to
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the bottom line is notre dame really doesnt lose recruits because they cant get into the school. people blaming their lack of success on the admissions are just wrong.


The bottom line is that if the administration will only allow a certain number of exceptions to the admissions standards in means that they DO lose recruits.

For example, if they grant 5 exceptions one year, and there are 10 recruits who would need an exception to get in, they have lost out on 5 recruits.

Why is that so difficult to understand?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:32 am to
Does this "article" have any validity?

Is this true that they have lowered the standards last month?
LINK /
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:32 am to
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yeah im the unintelligent one who is slinging 3rd grade insults left and right. oh wait that's you.


You're the unintelligent one who can't understand a simple concept like arithmetic.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:32 am to
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However, they won't take 20-25 borderline guys, which is what your typical SEC school can do,


true, i would guess most only take 5-6 questionable players per year, but i honestly have no idea.

there is a stigma surrounding *stupidity* in the SEC that i believe to be largely untrue, but there is quite possibly some truth to the stereotype.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:33 am to
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Does this "article" have any validity?


Not according to bbap.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96527 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:33 am to
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For example, if they grant 5 exceptions one year, and there are 10 recruits who would need an exception to get in, they have lost out on 5 recruits.


this is an arbitrary example that you have no proof happens on a yearly basis at all.
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:34 am to
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this is an arbitrary example that you have no proof happens on a yearly basis at all.


Except for the article linked above.

And from my knowledge of how similar institutions operate.

Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:36 am to
that article can be interpreted as where it once was just barely tougher than SEC schools now its basically the same.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57995 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:37 am to
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so as a general statement cowherd has no clue what he's talking about.

90% of the time this would be 100% correct.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:40 am to
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if they grant 5 exceptions one year, and there are 10 recruits who would need an exception to get in, they have lost out on 5 recruits.



the problem here is that you actually believe notre dame would want to pursue 10-15 under-qualified athletes.

bbap is arguing that the guys ND wants they are able to get; and since ND does not want 10-15 kige ramseys per class, he would be correct.

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:40 am to
I'll just say this my recruiting class this year, (the entire class) would not be admitted into Notre Dame.

But Notre Dame wouldn't go after the majority of our class anyway so it's a moot point.
This post was edited on 9/14/11 at 11:41 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:42 am to
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Does this "article" have any validity?


it could have been written two-three years ago.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:43 am to
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bbap is arguing that the guys ND wants they are able to get; and since ND does not want 10-15 kige ramseys per class, he would be correct.


Seems to me that he's arguing that ND's standards are the same as everyone else's standards, which is patently false.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37691 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:45 am to
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does ND have a special ed section like "University College" to send all their retard athletes like Tulane did with the Lynarius Elpheage's of the world?


Do you realize how small Notre Dame is in student body compared to other major D1 schools?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57995 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:46 am to
bap, this dude sure is mad huh?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37691 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:47 am to
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the bottom line is notre dame really doesnt lose recruits because they cant get into the school.


Incorrect. Notre Dame, Michigan and plenty of other schools have academic casualties that can't get in.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96527 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:51 am to
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Seems to me that he's arguing that ND's standards are the same as everyone else's standards, which is patently false.


nope i said they're close, and they are.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31148 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:51 am to
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Is this true that they have lowered the standards last month?


Brian Kelly wanted a guarantee of this before he would agree to be their coach. There is a long long history of Notre Dame not getting everyone they've wanted for academic reasons.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96527 posts
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:52 am to
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bap, this dude sure is mad huh?


yeah he really threw a tantrum for about two straight pages.
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