re: How Good Was Barry Bonds?

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Lol Bonds had a lot of HR's before roids and would have broken the HR record by just continuing at a normal pace.

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Strongly disagree

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He cooked the books, literally. Bonds is a fraud just like the rest of the roid ragers

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So the 90s just don't count now? About 80% of the league was on some type of performance enhancer. How about amphetamines? Do the thousands of players on those throughout the history of baseball get admonished the same? Sorry to tell you, your baseball hero, whomever it may be, likely used drugs to keep playing everyday.

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How would he fare in today's game

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He’d be the best player in it.

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(no roids)

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If you think guys today aren’t on PEDs, you’re kidding yourself. And they’re probably better than what he had at the time.

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How well would he hit at Yankee stadium

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Better than anybody else

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How well would he hit at Yankee stadium

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Trout’s interesting, because he’s still young, and his injuries haven’t taken away his speed yet. But they have similar explosion and torque. It will be interesting to see when Trout gets older and stops running as much, if he changes his game and just becomes a home run/walk machine. He won’t be Bonds, but he may the closest we see for a long time. Already is as an all around player. Acuna had a chance to be in that company.

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Judge (could get close to single-season record if he keeps it up),

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I love Judge, but I can’t see him staying healthy enough to challenge 73. Or good enough. He’ll eventually slump. That was the thing about Bonds. He went 5 years without slumping. His outs were line drive piss rods right at somebody. What’s that new stat about hard hit balls per swing? I’m sure he has the top 3 seasons of all time from ‘01-‘03 and they’ll never be touched. If he swung, he pissed on it. He was locked in like nobody else before or after. And it’s crazy he did it with such discipline. He may have only swung like 3 times a game. Oh, and Judge juices. But I don’t care.

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Alonso

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How dare you mention his name in a Barry Bonds post.

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Altuve

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What? Even worse. (And Altuve is a fricking stud).

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He was fun to watch, roids or no roids.

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No doubt. Obviously the roids helped. A lot. But nobody has ever been as psychologically/mentally dialed in for a sustained amount of time like Bonds. Never will.

Bonds was a 1st ballot HoF midway through his career (probably earlier) and well before the steroid allegations. He's a top 5 position player easily.

I just struggle putting him ahead of Willie Mays, who is Bonds' godfather BTW. Bonds (and Clemons) blew their places in history. Talent-wise though, he's top 3 however you want to rank him with Mays and Ruth.

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How fast was Ben Johnson really?

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He was literally as fast as he was clocked. It happened. You can put as much or as little stock into it as you want, but it happened. Just like Bonds, Sosa, and McGwire happened. The balls—literally—went over the fence.

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04 Barry Bonds had a slash line of .362/.609/.812 with an OPS of 1.422 The man walked 232 times that year. He hit more homers that year than he did strikeouts. 45 homers and 41 strikeouts. I mean god almighty

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Reading that legit gave me movement.

I mean, frick. Did he even have enough official ABs to win the batting title?

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He was a career .269 batter averaging just under 24 HRs per season and was built like Willie Mays Hays in Major League 2, very slender and known mostly for speed.

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Bonds hit 46 HRs and won MVP (x3) looking like this. (BTW he should have won 4 straight MVPs, his 91 season was objectively better than Terry pendletons and he came in second.



Yes he hit 73 looking like this



but it was against pitchers who looked like this




I cant decide whether PEDs helped or hurt him long term.

Certainly it kept him relevant longer. It made him the most talked about player in the game. However it keeps idiots like yourself and the self righteous MLB writers diminishing his accomplishments and a big cloud over his career.

He should be in the hall of fame no question. The fact that he isnt gives the HOF an asterisk. Not his career.

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He had some ridiculous stat lines and was the only hitter I’ve ever seen that could not be pitched inside. He would turn on literally everything hittable and would take the walks if not.

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What was so incredible about this was him keeping those fair. 100 inside on the black and almost everyone in history who could get around on it and barrel it up, had to hit it further up and pulled it foul. His bat speed was so ungodly, he could let those travel deep enough to still barrel them up, but keep them fair. Unbelievable.

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Have you ever seen Giancarlo Stanton? 8 of the 10 fastest exits speeds in 2021 were off his bat just like every year…

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without steroids

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