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re: How does Brian Kelly get a pass for killing a kid??

Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by BCTigerFan
Member since Jan 2007
1606 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:04 pm to
So let me get this clear in my mind. According to PF bringing DJ back for a day is worse than Sandusky and covering up child rape. Idiot
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:05 pm to
He wins more games than Durkin
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Both events are equally negligible, are they not?





not even close.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:25 pm to
I don't think that Brian Kelly would survive such a scandal if it happened in 2018.

This incident happened back in 2010 and believe it or not people have gotten way way more reactive to things in just eight years. Twitter was barely a thing in 2010.

The media and the public is far more aggressive about holding coaches and athletes responsible for things these days. A lot of the time it's overreaching hysteria but in Kelly's case would have been justified.

if only we could strike some sort of sane balance where people get outraged about things that are actually outrageous and don't worry about the rest.
This post was edited on 11/3/18 at 12:27 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9830 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:27 pm to
Act of god blew over the tower. It was negligence on someone. But not necessarily solely on Kelley

In Durkins case. It was a player under his direct supervision and control. Two different things. And he died during drills which the coach is in control of.

Not due to an act of god that blew over a tower.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89584 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Act of god blew over the tower.


That was forecasted.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Act of god blew over the tower.


It wasn't a meteorite that fell out of the sky.

It was a wind gust on a very windy day. They operated a piece of equipment that you're specifically not supposed to use in high winds.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9773 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Act of god blew over the tower. It was negligence on someone. But not necessarily solely on Kelley

In Durkins case. It was a player under his direct supervision and control. Two different things. And he died during drills which the coach is in control of.

Not due to an act of god that blew over a tower.


all 3 of your points in this post are wrong. you should feel bad.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54434 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:51 pm to
I think it is simpler than that....
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

I get that Kelly was there but the Video Coordinator sent the guy up there after replacing a girl because she was too scared.

But Kelly didn’t give the order the other guy did

Durkin was fired because of media pressure and a President for optics not an investigation not exactly the same.


Both Kelly and Durkin hired the people whose conduct resulted in those tragedies, since they lead the programs and hire staff, they're ultimately responsible thats the whole point of respondeat superior and vicarious liability in the legal realm, your argument holds no water. Go Samford Bulldogs!
Posted by Airpower
Member since Oct 2018
1101 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 2:10 pm to
Atleast no one got sanduskied
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
8675 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 2:53 pm to
Catholics are good at making sure horrible treatment of young boys/men isn’t properly punished
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

act of god that blew over a tower


dont blame god , or Mary or baby Jesus.

Wind blew in gusts.

Gusty wind. Real God is oblivious. Creator god is mythology.

People are really in a muddle about god. Tornado, for example. The mega churches say that's punishment for sin.
Infants too?
This post was edited on 11/3/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80130 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 3:15 pm to
Neither coach should be blamed
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31803 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 3:17 pm to
Brian Kelly actually forced that kid to go up there. But ESPN loves ND so he gets a pass. And the kid wasn’t a football player, so most people don’t care. It’s a damn shame. Brian kelly is a terrible person and should be fired
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21159 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 4:08 pm to
Kelly didn’t send him up there know the facts
Posted by MikeAV8s
Member since Oct 2016
2038 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Actually they aren’t. But I get your point. Video guys are most separate part of the group


Actually, they are. And I am not speculating.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
15294 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 6:44 pm to
Equipment guys/Trainers have much more interaction with coaches/players than video does
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140503 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 6:45 pm to
Yes you are and trust me I know how much separate video guys are. Our guys didn’t know the video guys names but knew every manager trainer and had Knick names for them.
This post was edited on 11/3/18 at 6:47 pm
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
3907 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Kelly didn’t send him up there know the facts


Exactly. BK didn't specify who should die that day. BK just wanted film from the angle
a vulnerable tower could provide on a windy day.
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