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re: how does a fine of $30 million against State Penn help the victims?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:20 pm to BraveTiger225
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:20 pm to BraveTiger225
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fines could go toward endowments for children's causes
like the 2nd Mile foundation?
no thanks.
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:22 pm to tiggerthetooth
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You honestly think the NCAA could just pocket this money and no one says a word?
It worked for Paterno for a while.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:22 pm to stout
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It's not necessarily to deter anymore child abuse crimes at a university but any and all potential illegal activities. It's not that hard to grasp, people.
But where does it stop? Say some players from Kansas St. gangrape a chick do they let the criminal system handle that or is that now grounds for NCAA sanctions? Or the 30+ arrests at Florida during Urban's tenure? Isn't that lack of institutional control?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:23 pm to FalseProphet
Great idea. Leave the NCAA and participate against who?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:27 pm to saintsfan22
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But where does it stop? Say some players from Kansas St. gangrape a chick do they let the criminal system handle that or is that now grounds for NCAA sanctions? Or the 30+ arrests at Florida during Urban's tenure? Isn't that lack of institutional control?
How can you not see the difference? It was a multi year cover up by athletic personal and administration that the NCAA is upset over.
If your alleged Kansas St. rape was covered up by the university then yes the NCAA has the right to punish them the same they are doing to Penn St on top of the criminal system. Some of you are acting like the NCAA is going to punish them and the legal system is going to do nothing about the crimes.
Penn St deserves what's coming to them from both the NCAA and our legal system.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:31 pm to stout
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If your alleged Kansas St. rape was covered up by the university then yes the NCAA has the right to punish them the same they are doing to Penn St on top of the criminal system.
This past year there was the chick at Notre Dame who killed herself after the school buried her accusation of rape by a football player. Other girls also came out and said similar happened to them. Shouldn't the NCAA be on that shortly then?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:33 pm to saintsfan22
Sure...if there is substantiated evidence, a thorough investigation, and maybe even a conviction like there is in this case.
If you notice the NCAA waited until Sandusky was convicted and the report came out before they acted.
How do you honestly not see the facts and difference s here?
If you notice the NCAA waited until Sandusky was convicted and the report came out before they acted.
How do you honestly not see the facts and difference s here?
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:33 pm to saintsfan22
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But where does it stop? Say some players from Kansas St. gangrape a chick do they let the criminal system handle that or is that now grounds for NCAA sanctions? Or the 30+ arrests at Florida during Urban's tenure? Isn't that lack of institutional control?
It doesn't stop if the school administration orchestrates a coverup to keep authorities from enforcing the law in your hypothetical.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
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You honestly think the NCAA could just pocket this money and no one says a word? Don't be so naive.
pocket the money? no, but I bet someone will get hired with a nice 6 figure salary and a staff of 10 others to make sure the money is giving to charity correctly.
Considering how ineffectively the NCAA handles most things, and the skimming off the top of habit of many charities charities, I'd be surprised if anything more than 25% of this fine actually reaches people it could help
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:35 pm to saintsfan22
yeah lets not punish one wrong thing because it happens everywhere.
did any of you saying this ever take a logic class? serious question.
did any of you saying this ever take a logic class? serious question.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:35 pm to Cash
Done deal...
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:37 pm to Tiguar
I don't think you know what is taught in a Logic class at a university...
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:38 pm to saintsfan22
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This past year there was the chick at Notre Dame who killed herself after the school buried her accusation of rape by a football player. Other girls also came out and said similar happened to them. Shouldn't the NCAA be on that shortly then?
and I expect it to happen,, maybe not in this case,,but when the big buck start pouring into the victims I expect a lot of coeds in the south to start talking
and I welcome it
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:39 pm to OWLFAN86
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but when the big buck start pouring into the victims I expect a lot of coeds in the south to start talking
Miami U is fricked
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:39 pm to OWLFAN86
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I expect a lot of coeds in the south to start talking
you saying you believe rape is prevalent among athletes on southern campuses?
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:39 pm to stout
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Sure...if there is substantiated evidence, a thorough investigation, and maybe even a conviction like there is in this case.
a thorough investigation not done through an adversial process without any ability to refute the evidence
The party imposing this punishment did not hire the investigator or conduct an investigation of their own.
The conviction is also not at all related to the coverup.
Don't get me wrong I believe the Freeh report, but I don't want this set of circumstances to be the only thing the NCAA needs in order to come in whack another school for $30 million and various other penalties.
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:39 pm to saintsfan22
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This past year there was the chick at Notre Dame who killed herself after the school buried her accusation of rape by a football player. Other girls also came out and said similar happened to them. Shouldn't the NCAA be on that shortly then?
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Why aren't the details clearer? In part because the Notre Dame police, rather than turning the case over to the St. Joseph County special victims unit, have chosen to handle it themselves — and they say they don't have to abide by the open records laws governing the rest of Indiana.
Notre Dame police
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:40 pm to Cash
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Great idea. Leave the NCAA and participate against who?
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anybody that accepts them would be crucified also
Posted on 7/22/12 at 9:40 pm to Elleshoe
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you saying you believe rape is prevalent among athletes on southern campuses?
The SEC and ACC are full of rapist...duh
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