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How difficult is it to be an NFL scout?
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:25 pm
I get starting out pay isn't great. Do you need to be young, have a degree? Is being in your 50s too old? I think I'd enjoy it in a couple years after retirement. Or maybe a college scout? I'd like to stick to being a regional scout.
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Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:28 pm to Mushroom1968
Depends…
Do you know what a suicide squeeze is?
Do you know what a suicide squeeze is?
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:37 pm to Mushroom1968
If McShay can do it, anybody can do it
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:40 pm to Mushroom1968
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I think I'd enjoy it in a couple years after retirement
I’d like to go 50/50 with you on a hot dog cart on a Florida Beach. That’s retirement.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:51 pm to ThatMakesSense
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I’d like to go 50/50 with you on a hot dog cart on a Florida Beach.
I agree, but not a beach guy. Wife is though. Didn't know if being an NFL scout was something you needed to move for or just traveled for. Just interested in the lifestyle. I realize those days have maybe past me by and that's fine, just curious.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:59 pm to tigerman03
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Do you know what a suicide squeeze is?
I saw Benny the Jet do it once....
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:09 pm to Mushroom1968
I know two different scouts (decline to say team) through two friends, both are young (30s) and I’ve had beers with each and I’m always curious about the “job” and ask a ton of questions. Both travel a lot, really a lot, and both have young families that are generally without dad, especially from now until after bowl season, then a lot during the draft time. Each are paying their dues under older scouts (former DCs) and hope to take the top spot one day.., they hate the travel, due to family stress, but love going to a game or two a weekend during football season, and of course they love football. They’ve both been with their NFL teams about 5-10 plus years… oddly one played very low level college and the other only played high school football. They’re very smart and don’t look like what you think an NFL scout would.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:11 pm to Mushroom1968
Quit getting bogged down by the details. Do you know ball?
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:11 pm to Mushroom1968
Used to know a guy who did it, played and coached nfl, cfl...sounded like terrible job.. he covered all SEC in LA, AL, and MS..on road all the time, didn't make shite..he died in 50s
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:12 pm to Mushroom1968
C. O. Brocato… greatest NFL scout ever.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 1:03 am to Mushroom1968
Anybody can be a scout. I don't care what all those analysts for teams think. They're obviously not as good as they think they are given tons of top 10 picks end up being busts, and tons of 6th and 7th rounders end up Hall of Famers.
I truly think if you put anyone in the position with an above 110 IQ and has vigorously watched football for minimum 15 years, they could do the job just as well as anyone else. I meet that criteria, so yes I think I could do as good of a job as anyone in the industry.
There are stats, interpretation of stats (Was the schedule easy, was he hurt, x, y, z), and film tape. Those are pretty easy if you've watch the game for a couple decades and know numbers to grasp.
I truly think if you put anyone in the position with an above 110 IQ and has vigorously watched football for minimum 15 years, they could do the job just as well as anyone else. I meet that criteria, so yes I think I could do as good of a job as anyone in the industry.
There are stats, interpretation of stats (Was the schedule easy, was he hurt, x, y, z), and film tape. Those are pretty easy if you've watch the game for a couple decades and know numbers to grasp.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:38 am to Mushroom1968
I think the current GM of the Steelers was once a scout for the Saints. Omar Khan?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 5:58 am to ChestRockwell
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I think the current GM of the Steelers was once a scout for the Saints. Omar Khan?
In the Giants' off-season hard knocks series, the scouts all got together for draft day, and the Giants GM said there were future GMs in that picture. I guess I didn't realize that was a path to GM.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:33 am to Mushroom1968
I'm sure the tough part is all the travel. Also the really good scouts are the ones who find those guys at the small programs that end up making it big. Lots of P4 "stars" get signed and wash out but it seems every team has a few guys nobody ever heard of that are solid players.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:55 am to Mushroom1968
I know a guy that applied for a scouting job with the Saints. He's in his twenties and played college ball. It's a long interview process. One of the things besides knowing the game is to be able to give a scouting report in 30 seconds or less. A lot of people apply so if you dont already some sort of connection it's not likely you will be hired. Good luck.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:57 am to Mushroom1968
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I agree, but not a beach guy. Wife is though. Didn't know if being an NFL scout was something you needed to move for or just traveled for. Just interested in the lifestyle. I realize those days have maybe past me by and that's fine, just curious.
The internet is a trip
People’s egos have ran wild to the point to where average joes think they can roll off the couch straight into an NFL scout position
For some reason, that’s hilarious to me.. the amount of ego that shite takes
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Anybody can be a scout. I don't care what all those analysts for teams think.
I rest my case
BRUH! I should have read the whole post before editing:
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I truly think if you put anyone in the position with an above 110 IQ and has vigorously watched football for minimum 15 years, they could do the job just as well as anyone else. I meet that criteria, so yes I think I could do as good of a job as anyone in the industry. There are stats, interpretation of stats (Was the schedule easy, was he hurt, x, y, z), and film tape. Those are pretty easy if you've watch the game for a couple decades and know numbers to grasp.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 8:00 am
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:52 am to Mushroom1968
Sure. I had a pretty skewed view of what I thought they did… traveling and games, etc.. it’s a grind for sure. Lots of phone calls, lots of building relationships and such.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:59 am to Mushroom1968
My sister's father in law was a scout for the Atlanta Braves for over 30 years. He was always on the road and drank himself to death.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:07 am to ghoast
Its not hard but its a lot of work and all about who you work for. I’d rather be an nfl personnel scout than an nba advance scout. I know a few nba scouts and those guys are basically zombies 6-9 months out of the year.
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