- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Hot take: even if Bama wins 50-6 tonight, technically still didn't "deserve" to be in
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:52 pm to karmew32
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:52 pm to karmew32
quote:
Ohio State, even though they didn't win their conference or even their division, was the only Big Ten team and one of 4 P5 teams with 1 or less losses. Also, they had a great resume highlighted by a road win over Big 12 champion Oklahoma.
You are just moving the goal posts to serve your argument, comical.
1
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:53 pm to dcrews
Many said Penn State should have been in.
Again, if conference championships don't get you in, then why have them anymore?
Again, if conference championships don't get you in, then why have them anymore?
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:55 pm to karmew32
quote:
they didn't win their conference or even their division
quote:
with 1 or less losses
So Alabama?
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:56 pm to phaz
quote:
Where was the all the outrage last year when OSU got in without playing for their conference championship?
There was plenty of outrage as many people rightfully said they hadn't earned it.
The thing that makes it worse this year is that 2 conferences and an undefeated UCF team were left out so that Bama could get in without actaully earning a spot.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:57 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
The committee's job is to select the four best teams.
Bama is obviously one of the four best teams in the country.
Bama is obviously one of the four best teams in the country.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:57 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
Again, if conference championships don't get you in, then why have them anymore?
Ask Baylor and TCU when the playoff was first implemented if a conf champ game doesn't matter. It's the entire reason neither of those teams got in.
Another thing I keep seeing, is teams wanting credit for simply scheduling good OOC opponents. They win, they brag about it and use it as an asset for their resume'. They lose and all of a sudden they expect not to be penalized for the loss.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:59 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
quote:
The committee's job is to select the four best teams. Bama is obviously one of the four best teams in the country.
The argument isn't about the "best" team, keep up.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:00 pm to phaz
quote:
You are just moving the goal posts to serve your argument, comical.
OSU's resume last year was much better than Bama's was this year.
And besides, OSU's entry pushed out the B1G's own conference champion. Not that controversial. B1G was getting in either way. Bama, on the other hand, locked some other conference out after the SEC had already assured itself a spot.
I don't really have issue with Bama. Bama does Bama things. But the committee's decisions are all over the place.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:03 pm to dcrews
quote:
It's the entire reason neither of those teams got in.
I thought it was because the Big 12 was awful that year and they actually needed another big win?
That was the year the Big 12 was just terrrrible.
This post was edited on 1/1/18 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:04 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
The argument isn't about the "best" team, keep up
The argument is over which teams the committee should have selected. It is their job to select the four best teams. Bama is obviously one of those.
Sucks for you.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:05 pm to messyjesse
The problem is people advocating OSU over Bama this year. OSU lost by 31 points to Iowa. IOWA.
UCF is another story. The whole point of the playoff system was so that a team like UCF would get a ticket to the dance. It should have been UCF
UCF is another story. The whole point of the playoff system was so that a team like UCF would get a ticket to the dance. It should have been UCF
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:07 pm to John McClane
Funny that people used Wisconsin's and Ohio State's bowl game wins to say they should be in the playoffs but don't care about Alabama's win tonight vs. Clemson.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:08 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
This may be the worst Saban team since 2007 but they're about to be handed another trip to the title game
Except for the whole comfortably beating the undesputed top team.
There is that.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:08 pm to goldenbadger08
The mental gymnastics are impressive
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:08 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
.....and that's what I'm disagreeing with.
That's too objective of a parameter. And honestly, it completely disregard the entire NCAA conference system. If you agree with the way they choose, how can you also be in favor of conferences at all?
That's too objective of a parameter. And honestly, it completely disregard the entire NCAA conference system. If you agree with the way they choose, how can you also be in favor of conferences at all?
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:09 pm to phaz
First off congrats to Bama and Georgia. That was especially a great Rose Bowl game. And Saban is cementing his legacy. And having the semis in the Rose and Sugar is ideal to me.
My take was Ohio State should not have been in last year and Bama should not have been in this year. I can't stand the idea of couch sitters on that last week of cfb getting in.
As said before by another. A team like Bama or Ohio State needs to lose 2 times to be out (maybe). Otherwise they will always be in based on the eye test. Even with a soft schedule or even with no division title.
Meanwhile undefeated UCF gets no shot and the B1G conference championship game has been regulated to zero significance the last 2 years.And down South, Auburn gets penalized for playing the SEC championship game.
Bret Bielema was right in thinking that with cfb going to 4 teams that the SEC would have a good chance of getting 2 teams to it and that winning a national title from the B1G would be tougher because it was a weaker conference. Even if the B1G isn't weaker in a year like this, perception is everything and the SEC gets the nod. This is a reason he went to Arky. But it doesn't sit well with me.
Pick your top 4 conference champs. I would even settle for top 4 division champs. But to reward teams for sitting out the last weekend isn't right.
My take was Ohio State should not have been in last year and Bama should not have been in this year. I can't stand the idea of couch sitters on that last week of cfb getting in.
As said before by another. A team like Bama or Ohio State needs to lose 2 times to be out (maybe). Otherwise they will always be in based on the eye test. Even with a soft schedule or even with no division title.
Meanwhile undefeated UCF gets no shot and the B1G conference championship game has been regulated to zero significance the last 2 years.And down South, Auburn gets penalized for playing the SEC championship game.
Bret Bielema was right in thinking that with cfb going to 4 teams that the SEC would have a good chance of getting 2 teams to it and that winning a national title from the B1G would be tougher because it was a weaker conference. Even if the B1G isn't weaker in a year like this, perception is everything and the SEC gets the nod. This is a reason he went to Arky. But it doesn't sit well with me.
Pick your top 4 conference champs. I would even settle for top 4 division champs. But to reward teams for sitting out the last weekend isn't right.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:10 pm to John McClane
quote:
The whole point of the playoff system was so that a team like UCF would get a ticket to the dance. It should have been UCF
Don’t be naive.
The whole point of the playoff was to lessen the chance of a same conference match up, and the hit to the bottom line it causes.
Watch the conversations start to change it up again in spite of Bama proving their worthiness.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:10 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:
I can easily argue that either UCF, Ohio State, or USC was strictly more deserving of the spot.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:11 pm to John McClane
quote:
UCF is another story. The whole point of the playoff system was so that a team like UCF would get a ticket to the dance. It should have been UCF
They played one P5 team in the regular season. They did not deserve to get in.
This post was edited on 1/1/18 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:11 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
So are you saying no matter what the 4 playoff teams must be conference champs?
Seems so.
If that's the case, which 4 conference?
Would it be the committee's job then to just select the top 4 conferences?
Seems so.
If that's the case, which 4 conference?
Would it be the committee's job then to just select the top 4 conferences?
Page 2 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News