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re: hearing rumors FSU & Clem to SEC, PAC raiding Big 12, big 4 Conferences forming
Posted on 5/11/12 at 8:33 am to bubbz
Posted on 5/11/12 at 8:33 am to bubbz
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When all the rumors were flying last year, he said that FSU was in deep negotiations with the SEC, but UF cockblocked them.
Of course they did. Its sad because if any team deserves to be in the SEC it it Florida State.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 9:11 am to StraightCashHomey21
I believe it, but there's no upside at all to adding FSU or Clemson. I'd rather get UVA, Duke, ECU, or WVU than either of them. They add nothing to the conference monetarily.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 9:33 am to RollTigers
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I believe it, but there's no upside at all to adding FSU or Clemson. I'd rather get UVA, Duke, ECU, or WVU than either of them. They add nothing to the conference monetarily.
Yes, the SEC's presence in the state of Florida is extremely. UF, Georgia, UA, AU all have fingers in that pie. To me though adding teams shouldn't be solely about tv markets. Missouri and TAMU don't fit in the SEC, but since they bring markets they are added. That makes us look like whores. I would have much rather had FSU and Miami, or Va. Tech, or West Virginia. At least those teams' fan bases fit our culture, Miami not so much, but the rest do.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 9:40 am to MontyFranklyn
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Va. Tech
if they had not been money grubbing back stabbers 10 years ago and just rode it out in the BE they might just have been 13 or 14 in the SEC right now. Now they just got fricked on their new tv deal
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West Virginia
most agree if it was just down to football and basketball we were the obvious choice at 14 but Mizzou had the bargaining chip of markets it sucks but we landed nicely on our feet esp with the new Big12 tv deal. In the long run we ended up in a much better conference and with a much better tv deal than both our main rivals VT and Pitt. After getting fricked over so much it feels good to finally be up there.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 11:03 am to mizzoukills
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Ducks,
You're almost to 20 pages! Impressive! You predicted that earlier!
Close, but not quoting me exactly right. I said that that's the ways it's been in the past, on average, they usually go over 10 pages and that I have had several over 20. However, I was in no way predicting this specific thread at all, or doing any predictions.
Now back to this thread topic: So where's the guy "bubbz", who posted in here earlier, who has a cousin that is the Director of FSU Football Operations? We need him to call up his cousin and then just back in this thread and report to us all what FSU is secretly up to.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 11:06 am to StraightCashHomey21
Sorry if already posted but here is a specific breakdown of Tier 1 and Tier 2 money across the big conferences.
ESPN
It doesn't take into account the rumored new Big 12 deal but does take into account the ACC deal. Couple things:
1. The SEC is about to get paid because when you look across the board, it is woefully undervalued now compared to the other conferences, especially since football drives the value and the SEC kind of is successful at that sport.
2. I don't think the Big10 has Tier 3 rights like we normally think about them - here, they really only have Tier 1 and 2 because of the B10 network. But maybe a Big 10 person can explain that better.
3. Pac 12 Tier 3 rights, also not shown here, should be pretty good with the regional networks they are planning.
4. ACC's deal still sucks for FSU and other "football" schools. It's still unclear to me whether any basketball content is left for Tier 3 in the new deal....this says no (and also see definition of "tiers" as they are using them) but the ACC wesbite announcement seems to suggest there will be an inventory of games left over for the schools to have. A gold mine for UNC and Duke, not so much for Miami, FSU, Clemson, etc.
ESPN
It doesn't take into account the rumored new Big 12 deal but does take into account the ACC deal. Couple things:
1. The SEC is about to get paid because when you look across the board, it is woefully undervalued now compared to the other conferences, especially since football drives the value and the SEC kind of is successful at that sport.
2. I don't think the Big10 has Tier 3 rights like we normally think about them - here, they really only have Tier 1 and 2 because of the B10 network. But maybe a Big 10 person can explain that better.
3. Pac 12 Tier 3 rights, also not shown here, should be pretty good with the regional networks they are planning.
4. ACC's deal still sucks for FSU and other "football" schools. It's still unclear to me whether any basketball content is left for Tier 3 in the new deal....this says no (and also see definition of "tiers" as they are using them) but the ACC wesbite announcement seems to suggest there will be an inventory of games left over for the schools to have. A gold mine for UNC and Duke, not so much for Miami, FSU, Clemson, etc.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 11:23 am to OrangeBlood
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OrangeBlood
Good info. Thank You for sharing.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 12:47 pm to beaver
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Didn't UF, USC, UK and UGA make a pact to not let in Clemson, FSU, GT and Louisville?
Posted on 5/11/12 at 1:12 pm to alfredblueforheisman
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Didn't UF, USC, UK and UGA make a pact to not let in Clemson, FSU, GT and Louisville?
I think this is the common belief but I honestly dont know if there's any substance to it.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 1:41 pm to hiltacular
I would be surprised if UF, USC, UK and UGA allowed Clemson, FSU, GT and Louisville into the conference. One of the big selling points recruiting-wise is "You get to play in the SEC". You lose that, you lose a lot. Particularly USC and UK.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 1:43 pm to Augustus
There is talk that Virginia and Maryland would join the big ten if the ACC ever implodes and that if MD and VA came to the big ten the big ten would take them. The big ten doesn't want to be seen as raiding conferences and especially the ACC.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 1:43 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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Ducks,
You're almost to 20 pages! Impressive! You predicted that earlier!
How is this not get anchored last night we were talking washingotn's ol, movies, and abunch of other random shite. (anybody ever go check out the OT tiger girls thread last night?)
Posted on 5/11/12 at 1:47 pm to big Tiger 1885
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(anybody ever go check out the OT tiger girls thread last night?)
smdh
Posted on 5/11/12 at 2:03 pm to HT713
One DucksflyinPac thread should just be stickied and Titled "Miscellaneous CFB Shite."
Posted on 5/11/12 at 2:06 pm to Zamoro10
While we're at it, how bout a "Misc LeBron shite" sticky as well. It's becoming impossible to have a discussion about the NBA w/o some a-hole turning it into a Lebron thread.
Posted on 5/11/12 at 3:36 pm to big Tiger 1885
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How is this not get anchored last night we were talking washingotn's ol, movies, and abunch of other random shite. (anybody ever go check out the OT tiger girls thread last night?)
If my memory serves me right from last night, it was you who instigated the Hollywood talk or were a key part of it. I personally wanted to stick more on topic of the thread I created, which it has today(until you showed up again).
Posted on 5/11/12 at 3:38 pm to Zamoro10
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One DucksflyinPac thread should just be stickied and Titled "Miscellaneous CFB Shite."
Deff not my fault. Same as always, I create a thread, and the Rantards come out in masses and then later it becomes PAC central. Same thing, every time. Rantards want to stir up shite, never fails...
Posted on 5/11/12 at 3:40 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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the Rantards
when they taught you that word, did they tell you that if you said it 1000 times you'd get a gift card to Chili's?
Posted on 5/11/12 at 3:47 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Ducksflyinthepac
You are a true TROLL. The second this thread hit the second page, you replied to somebody so it can get bumped back on to the 1st page.
You guys should go see his post on the Outdoor board. He's trying to make friends.
You brag about how your threads get so many pages but it's all people just making fun of you or trolling you. This guy truly is a sad sad human being.
He sat there and waited to see if anyone would post so it wouldn't get pushed to the second page. Then no one posted so he bumps his own thread.
FRICKING SAD DUCKSFLYINTHEPAC.............
Stop calling people bro. Your pushing 40 years old.
You are a true TROLL. The second this thread hit the second page, you replied to somebody so it can get bumped back on to the 1st page.
You guys should go see his post on the Outdoor board. He's trying to make friends.
You brag about how your threads get so many pages but it's all people just making fun of you or trolling you. This guy truly is a sad sad human being.
He sat there and waited to see if anyone would post so it wouldn't get pushed to the second page. Then no one posted so he bumps his own thread.
FRICKING SAD DUCKSFLYINTHEPAC.............
Stop calling people bro. Your pushing 40 years old.
This post was edited on 5/11/12 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 5/11/12 at 3:47 pm to StraightCashHomey21
It was just a matter of time before you would be in here talking shite about tech 
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