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He won’t be, but Brock Bowers should be rookie of the year
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:52 pm
The resident LSU fans won’t like this, but it’s true.
• Most yards by a rookie TE ever
• Most receptions by any rookie ever
• Best TE in the NFL as a rookie
That last one is the most important. Being the best player at your position as a rookie is completely unheard of these days
Daniels is having a great year, but it’s not a historically good season. He’s got the rookie rushing QB record but in general his numbers don’t stand above some of the other rookie QBs of the last 10-15 years.
Additionally, unlike Bowers, he’s not the best player at his position. Most publications and metrics have him somewhere between 4th and 10th in the NFL at the moment.
And no, it doesn’t matter that Bowers plays for a losing team. The award is rookie of the year, not “most valuable rookie”.
TL;DR: Daniels is having a good season, Bowers is having a historical season that is much much less likely to be replicated
• Most yards by a rookie TE ever
• Most receptions by any rookie ever
• Best TE in the NFL as a rookie
That last one is the most important. Being the best player at your position as a rookie is completely unheard of these days
Daniels is having a great year, but it’s not a historically good season. He’s got the rookie rushing QB record but in general his numbers don’t stand above some of the other rookie QBs of the last 10-15 years.
Additionally, unlike Bowers, he’s not the best player at his position. Most publications and metrics have him somewhere between 4th and 10th in the NFL at the moment.
And no, it doesn’t matter that Bowers plays for a losing team. The award is rookie of the year, not “most valuable rookie”.
TL;DR: Daniels is having a good season, Bowers is having a historical season that is much much less likely to be replicated
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:56 pm to diddlydawg7
quote:
And no, it doesn’t matter that Bowers plays for a losing team. The award is rookie of the year, not “most valuable rookie”.
Maybe so but people don’t look at it that way. If the Raiders were 12-5 and playoff bound and Commies were 4-13 with both having the exact same stats Daniels wouldn’t be ROTY either.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:57 pm to diddlydawg7
He’s not winning over Jayden Daniels
The Eagles and Falcons comeback wins sealed it for Daniels
Most wins Washington has had since 1991
Bowers is probably #1 at his position and technically should get it, but the voters aren’t going to ignore the season Daniels had
Bowers will probably get 1st Team All-Pro, which is actually a more impressive award for a rookie, because his competition for that accolade is every NFL tight end, not just rookies
The Eagles and Falcons comeback wins sealed it for Daniels
Most wins Washington has had since 1991
Bowers is probably #1 at his position and technically should get it, but the voters aren’t going to ignore the season Daniels had
Bowers will probably get 1st Team All-Pro, which is actually a more impressive award for a rookie, because his competition for that accolade is every NFL tight end, not just rookies
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:59 pm to diddlydawg7
Bowers was awesome this year. That said, no shot NFL will let a TE get it over a QB leading his team to the playoffs.
EDIT: Also no need to take a swipe at LSU
only reason you care about a rookie TE is because he played for UGA
EDIT: Also no need to take a swipe at LSU
only reason you care about a rookie TE is because he played for UGAThis post was edited on 1/5/25 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:59 pm to diddlydawg7
I'd gladly see him win it.
1. Bowers
2. Nix
Everybody else
1. Bowers
2. Nix
Everybody else
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:01 pm to DallasTiger11
quote:
Maybe so but people don’t look at it that way. If the Raiders were 12-5 and playoff bound and Commies were 4-13 with both having the exact same stats Daniels wouldn’t be ROTY either.
I mean, maybe?
Herbert went 6-10 and easily won over Justin Jefferson
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:01 pm to SirWinston
Stop trolling. Hook too shiny in every thread
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:03 pm to diddlydawg7
Wins matter, skins were picking 2nd, now in the playoffs.
Raiders still suck.
Trust me, 90% of this board wanted Bowers on the Saints.
I wanted Bowers or Thomas.
Raiders still suck.
Trust me, 90% of this board wanted Bowers on the Saints.
I wanted Bowers or Thomas.
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:05 pm to diddlydawg7
Yeah it would probably be Nix. It’s a QBs world.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:08 pm to diddlydawg7
What’s the harder task:
Being the best qb in the league
Or
Being the best te in the league
Being the best qb in the league
Or
Being the best te in the league
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:08 pm to MizzouTrue
quote:
but the voters aren’t going to ignore the season Daniels had
Obviously not, but they probably should
The truth is, a rookie QB playing well and leading their team to the playoffs, isn’t that special
Stroud did it last year, Dak in 2016, RG3 in 2012, Russell Wilson in 2012, Matt Ryan in 2008
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:09 pm to diddlydawg7
Ok
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:10 pm to diddlydawg7
1. Daniels
2. Nix
3. Bowers
2. Nix
3. Bowers
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:10 pm to diddlydawg7
Tight end is one of the least important positions, probably less so than any other position that isn’t special teams.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:15 pm to TackySweater
quote:
What’s the harder task:
Being the best qb in the league
Or
Being the best te in the league
I’m assuming you mean for a rookie.
No rookie QB has ever been best in the league
No rookie TE has been best in the league since Ditka in 1961
But like I said, if you compare Daniels season to other top rookies it doesn’t necessarily stand out
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:16 pm to diddlydawg7
It’s a good think you’re not in charge of setting betting lines in Vegas. Your sportsbook would be belly up within a month.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:17 pm to TheWalrus
quote:
Tight end is one of the least important positions, probably less so than any other position that isn’t special teams.
Which shouldn’t matter at all. It’s not an MVP award
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:18 pm to PeteRose
quote:
It’s a good think you’re not in charge of setting betting lines in Vegas. Your sportsbook would be belly up within a month.
I think it’s good you probably don’t have to read for work because it literally says in the title that Bowers won’t win.
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:20 pm to diddlydawg7
His 5 TDs aren’t that impressive
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 1/5/25 at 7:21 pm to diddlydawg7
quote:
I think it’s good you probably don’t have to read for work because it literally says in the title that Bowers won’t win.
You said he “should”. Just like Denver should beat KC today. No one ever says “Denver should win so let’s make them the underdog”.
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