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re: Hahnville QB "hearing" Thursday

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Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 9:41 am to
What's amazing is how many people are posting about this with only a shrewd of the story - skewing public opinion and stirring people up with largely fake news


the ignorance on the rules, precedents and facta is mind boggling
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:20 am to
You guys really seem to be getting a lot of joy out of this kid not playing smh. I get it "follow the rules" whatever. The kid and his family feel they are getting a raw deal, so they are fighting for an opportunity to play. Your view is basically "shut up and take it"... that's crazy talk! People sympathize with the the kid on this one, and for better or worse think the LHSAA is jacked. I for one feel like they should keep fighting if they think what happened is unfair, and the penalty is excessive... why not fight? It worked for K. Fulton. I met Andrew seems like a good kid, I hope he wins the appeal.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 11:24 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 11:28 am to
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You guys really seem to be getting a lot of joy out of this kid not playing smh.


Nonsense. There isn’t anyone “taking joy” on this issue. There were egregious violations by the kid, parents, and Hahnville. The decision was absolutely correct. The kid and his family are trying to play the sympathy, “he’s just a kid” card now.

Recognizing objective truth doesn’t mean people take personal joy in it.
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Looking over all the documents posted - looks like game, set , match......


"Game, set, match"

Sounds like joy to me.

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re: Hahnville QB "hearing" ThursdayPosted on 9/21/18 at 2:35 pm to mswiggins

?

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Looking over all the documents posted - looks like game, set , match... 


What do you mean? For whom? 

kid won't be cleared...




Look, I'm just saying we're talking about High school football, is it really this big of a deal if one kid gets to play... oh wow!

This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:08 pm to
An in the interest of full disclosure, my son plays for HHS and I don't think this kid not playing has anything to do with their record. Should have had the backup better prepared, and the assistant coaches are in over their head. So like I said if the kid plays great for him, if he doesn't .. oh well next man up. I just feel bad for him and hope he plays.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:26 pm to
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quote: Looking over all the documents posted - looks like game, set , match...... "Game, set, match" Sounds like joy to me. quote: re: Hahnville QB "hearing" ThursdayPosted on 9/21/18 at 2:35 pm to mswiggins ? quote: Looking over all the documents posted - looks like game, set , match... What do you mean? For whom? kid won't be cleared... Look, I'm just saying we're talking about High school football, is it really this big of a deal if one kid gets to play... oh wow!



Multiple rules were broken

What good are the rules if they aren't enforced.....ie. complaints that fueled the fire for the split


I could see if it was ONE violation and it was an oversight. But this was no oversight



Everyone asked why they didn't apply for hardship,,,,,we'll now that the facts are out it's pretty obvious

His parents need to accept responsibility for their actions that caused this
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:26 pm to
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There were egregious violations by the kid, parents, and Hahnville. The decision was absolutely correct. The kid and his family are trying to play the sympathy, “he’s just a kid” card now.

Recognizing objective truth doesn’t mean people take personal joy in it.
pray tell, what did the kid do?
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

quote: Looking over all the documents posted - looks like game, set , match...... "Game, set, match" Sounds like joy to me. quote: re: Hahnville QB "hearing" ThursdayPosted on 9/21/18 at 2:35 pm to mswiggins ? quote: Looking over all the documents posted - looks like game, set , match... What do you mean? For whom? kid won't be cleared... Look, I'm just saying we're talking about High school football, is it really this big of a deal if one kid gets to play... oh wow!


As is always the case kids suffer for what their parents do...... What pray tell did the southern lab kids do last year?




Or he ehret linebacker?






This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:32 pm to
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What pray tell did the southern lab kids do last year?

Or he ehret linebacker?


pretty sure Lab kids were free to transfer and the Ehret LB went back to MS
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:35 pm to
I read the documents and to me it just depends on whether you believe Andrew and if you believe their reasoning for leaving, I don't know Boninne, Atwell, or the parents... but I have met Andrew, and I do believe the coach did exactly what that kid said he did. I know quite a few coaches that have been bullish when they didn't get their way. I feel a hardship should have been given because of Atwell's actions... and in NONE of those cases you mentioned the kids were bullied by the head coach.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:41 pm to
Correct the only reason many feel they did not go the hardship route was because of the other violations that already occurred or were occurring concurrently


And keep in mind most investigations don't uncover every transgression


The Vc coaches actions are a separate issue


Keep in mind at its core a transfer for sports reasons comes witha one year wait on eligibility

Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:43 pm to
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pretty sure Lab kids were free to transfer an


Nope
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:47 pm to
Well whether he transferred for athletics or academics, to me is also subjective... Hahnville academically is by far better than any public school he could have transferred to in Houma. Who's to say he didn't transfer for academics and the strong football program just happens to be an added benefit.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:48 pm to
There is no proof on the bullying and some of what they player has said about his gear has been disproven by multiple sources.



And his own comments in an interview certainly don't point to bullying



And bullying didn't enter the picture or lexicon until he was declared in eligible and somebody told one of his parents that they should have claimed he was bullied by staff and apply for hardship....incidentally a claim I helped guide a player and his family through but they had many witnesses and instances backing up their claim


And NO other lhsaa rules were broken in the process unlike this case



Watch the news. When a side losses the last resort is slander
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
243 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:55 pm to
However Atwell has denied NONE of what was said. I believe Atwell told him he could transfer to any school except Terrebonne, because he knew they would be good. I believe he figured Andrew would end up at H.L. or South T. or some other program that was down, and thought the kid would come back. He never figured Andrew would end up on the defending State championship runner up, and with an opportunity to start no less. He got mad and pushed the issue, and when that didn't work he started bullying the kid.


It's also funny how all his defenders came out after the fact... allibies can be bought also, meaning if he gave a player the equipment why would they say it was Andrew's.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 12:59 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:59 pm to
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However Atwell has denied NONE of what was said. I believe Atwell told him he could transfer to any school except Terrebonne, because he knew they would be good. I believe he figured Andrew would end up at H.L. or South T. or some other program that was down, and thought the kid would come back. He never figured Andrew would end up on the defending State championship runner up, and with an opportunity to start no less. He got mad and pushed the issue, and when that didn't work he started bullying the kid. It's also funny how all his defenders came out after the fact... allibies can be bought also.



So he would have simply been makings a move for sports eligibility - one year


If he was bullied it should have come out long before everything else...long before.
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
243 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 1:04 pm to
No, the original move would have been financial "dad being fired", the bullying after the potential of an actual move became reality.


And as far as Atwell I believe it is ALL about athletics to him. I think the only reason he wanted the Robisons there was for athletes. Makes him the biggest hypocrite in all of this.
This post was edited on 9/22/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34990 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 1:18 pm to
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No, the original move would have been financial "dad being fired", the bullying after the potential of an actual move became reality.


Might want to read he rules....that's not a free pass


Also if the player was bullied wouldn't it have come out at camps, or other conversations before ....


Hopefully more comes out...good luck to your son and the tigers
Posted by 2DayWuzAGoodDay2
Member since Jun 2018
243 posts
Posted on 9/22/18 at 1:29 pm to
It never came out over the summer because everyone thought it was over and done with. The kid admits he didn't want to bad mouth the school if he didn't have too. The case didn't come up until a week before the Jamboree. I'm sure had this case come up in May, then the accusations would have come up in may. It's all speculative only Andrew and and Atwell know what was said/ happened. After meeting Andrew I just find him credible.

And thanks I'm sure the Tigers will be alright once the Head coach gets back. Like I said that hurt them more than missing Andrew, they would have lost at least 2 of those games with him there. The assistants are in way over their head.
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