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re: Grudens Emails vs DeShaun Watson's legal stuff

Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:23 pm to
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One is a crime


what crime? if crime was committed, he'd been charged
Posted by biggdogg
United States
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:26 pm to
Men lie women lie emails don’t…
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:26 pm to
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what crime? if crime was committed, he'd been charged
.

Ok whatever you say, Bill Cosby. You might have an argument if it was 1 or even 2 women. But, it's 22!

Twenty-two women have filed civil lawsuits in Texas accusing the quarterback of a pattern of coercive and lewd behavior. LINK
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 5:31 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:26 pm to
Haven't you heard?

In 2021, mean words are much worse than assaulting women. Of course, if it was Josh Allen, for example, instead of Watson, Allen would be the worst human being in existence and he would have probably already been banned from the league for a year or two.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:28 pm to
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if it was Josh Allen, for example, instead of Watson, Allen would be the worst human being in existence and he would have probably already been banned from the league for a year or two.


Josh Allen 2 years ago? Yeah you’re probably right.

Josh Allen now? Nope. The bills would be doing the exact same thing.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:31 pm to
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Josh Allen now? Nope. The bills would be doing the exact same thing.


The NFL and the media would be covering this a lot differently, and you know it. Anyone who doesn't realize this has had their head in the sand for the last 10 years or so.

There would be 20 stories out there quoting "anonymous sources" (read: fake quotes) talking about how terrible of a person Allen is and calling for a lifetime ban from the league.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 5:33 pm
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:32 pm to
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One is a player. One a 50 year old coach. Different responsibility


Both are supposed adults but here we are, rules for thee not for me fits some peoples narratives
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112285 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:33 pm to
Your persecution complex is cute and all but the amount of bullshite teams are willing to deal with is directly correlated to production and talent of the player. It’s not a hard concept to grasp.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:33 pm to
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what he said was in PRIVATE.


Emails never are.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:34 pm to
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Both are supposed adults but here we are, rules for thee not for me fits some peoples narratives


Again, what world are you guys living in where everyone lives under the same rules and expectations no matter the situation?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:37 pm to
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Again, what world are you guys living in where everyone lives under the same rules and expectations no matter the situation?


We know people live under different rules. We also know what specific people get to live under these different rules, and Josh Allen isn't in that category.

If you haven't figured it out yet, I can't help you.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:38 pm to
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civil lawsuits


are crimes?

again, where are the charges, arrest warrant, and booking info?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112285 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:38 pm to
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We know people live under different rules. We also know what specific people get to live under these different rules,


Yes the talented and hard to replace people

If Watson was a running back he wouldn’t be in the league right now. If he was a terrible QB he wouldn’t be in the league right now. That’s just how it is
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 5:39 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13553 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:39 pm to
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One is a player. One a 50 year old coach. Different responsibility.


One is an MVP candidate and the other is 1/32. Who is more representative of the league? The answer is they both are and it’s a damn shame that a consistent double standard is always set. To take it a step further, I and everyone else can guarantee you that if it was a black coach talking about “crackas” then not a damn thing would have happened and it would have never seen the light day.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:46 pm to
You get one finger up your bum and all of a sudden you’re not a franchise QB man. Life comes at you fast.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6059 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:54 pm to
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Yes the talented and hard to replace people


Exactly, just like how baseball handled Trevor Bauer’s accusations… wait, he was suspended indefinitely? But, he wasn’t convicted, why would baseball suspend him and the NFL hasn’t made a determination on Watson’s status to play? What could be the difference ?

I wonder.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 5:58 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:56 pm to
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Yes the talented and hard to replace people


Not quite. You know the answer but you just don't want to admit it.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64488 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 6:12 pm to
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I’m sure you can understand why the league isn’t quick to suspend a player for a crime he hasn’t even been charged for at this point.

Signed Trevor Bauer
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70900 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 6:12 pm to
Coaches are more expendable than players.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30166 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 6:47 pm to
I mean he's not wrong.

The attention on Gruden and lack thereof on Watson in the media is 100% racially motivated.

You think Mike Tomlin having emails come to light about him making fun of a white person gets as much scrutiny as Gruden's situation?
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