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Grudens Emails vs DeShaun Watson's legal stuff

Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Streelman
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:53 pm
which is worse? Gruden has been found guilty of the mean words, Watson accused of some real serious stuff. haven't heard a cross word said about him on tv other than "dealing with legal issues". Very weird dynamic. IMO Watson is worse
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:54 pm to
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haven't heard a cross word said about him on tv other than "dealing with legal issues".


Huh?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:55 pm to
One is a player. One a 50 year old coach. Different responsibility.
Posted by Streelman
Southeast
Member since Dec 2020
1374 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:55 pm to
true he is still a superstar QB
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
3322 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:56 pm to
One has been proven and the other is still being determined so large difference.

Watson will rightly get crucified if the allegations turn out to be true.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10135 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:57 pm to
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One is a black player. One a 50 year old, white male, coach. Different privileges.


*Fixed*
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16871 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:57 pm to
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One is a player. One a 50 year old coach. Different responsibility


The mob has different rules for different groups.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:58 pm to
The situations are different, but this Watson thing has been covered so strangely. He was literally the 1st story every sports show on tv talked about for like 2 months when he demanded a trade. Then this comes out, it’s a story for about 2 days, then radio silence.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 4:59 pm to
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Watson accused


One guilty, and other is accused

u dont see the difference?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112329 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:09 pm to
Everytime someone gets in any sort of trouble in the NFL someone makes this dumb thread

Watson is a young elite franchise QB. Essentially the white whale for 20-25 NFL franchises at any given moment. Teams are going to be more patient and more willing to deal with the PR that comes with off the field stuff in that situation than they are a coach or a less effective player. It’s really not hard to figure out.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112329 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:10 pm to
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The mob has different rules for different groups.


Are you under the impression that anything else in this world works any differently?
Posted by Avante
Member since Oct 2021
1459 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:11 pm to
Gruden didn't do anything, who hasn't said similiar stuff?

What Watson did is on a whole other level, he needs some jail time,.

I feel sorry for Gruden, what he said was in PRIVATE.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 5:13 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112329 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:14 pm to
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What Watson did is on a whole other level, he needs some jail time


If he did it then yes he should be in prison however I’m sure you can understand why the league isn’t quick to suspend a player for a crime he hasn’t even been charged for at this point.

And no matter how this ends for Watson, he’s likely facing some level of league punishment.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13533 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:15 pm to
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One is a black player. One a 50 year old, white male, coach. Different privileges.


*Fixed*


Well that didn't take long.
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6357 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:16 pm to
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One guilty, and other is accused

u dont see the difference?
.

One is a crime, one is not.
U don't see the difference?
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13533 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:17 pm to
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The situations are different, but this Watson thing has been covered so strangely. He was literally the 1st story every sports show on tv talked about for like 2 months when he demanded a trade. Then this comes out, it’s a story for about 2 days, then radio silence.



There's no much the media can continue to report or give their opinions on as long as it's only allegations. No one is going to put themselves out there crucifying Watson with the risk (even if it is slim) of the allegations coming back false.

Now if he is found guilty, than that's another story.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:17 pm to
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One is a crime, one is not.
U don't see the difference?


When was Watson charged? Link to arrest and warrant?
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13533 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:20 pm to
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One guilty, and other is accused

u dont see the difference?


quote:

One is a crime, one is not.
U don't see the difference?



An alleged crime. It seems there are way too many allegations for them all to be false, but they are still only allegations. The justice system needs to do its thing and decide in the court of law if Watson is guilty for sexual assault.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112329 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:21 pm to
It’s only civil suits at this point so there’s no real court battle to report on, he’s not playing or practicing so there’s no real angle to report there, and it’s a lose/lose conversation for the media to talk about because if it comes out that he’s obviously guilty then they get slammed for not going after him hard enough, but if it comes out that he’s completely innocent then they get slammed for smearing his name

There’s only so many times some random talking head can go “well I guess we will see how this shakes out”
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6357 posts
Posted on 10/20/21 at 5:22 pm to
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When was Watson charged? Link to arrest and warrant?
.

What he was accused of by over 20+ women is a crime. I never said he was charged with anything.

What Gruden did is not a crime, it's just stupid.
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