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re: Greatest Yankee of all time?
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:25 pm to BayouBengals03
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:25 pm to BayouBengals03
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Derek Jeter
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Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:26 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Gherig will always be the Pride of the Yankees
This is your answer.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:27 pm to Rouge
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Stengel
Hard to argue this.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:34 pm to dukke v
I may have missed it...but has anyone mentioned Yogi?
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:36 pm to Srbtiger06
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may have missed it...but has anyone mentioned Yogi?
YOGI was A GREAT YANKEE!!!! But Just not at the Gehrig, RUHT, MANTE and Joe D level.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:38 pm to Srbtiger06
Bernie
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:41 pm to dukke v
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But Just not at the Gehrig, RUHT, MANTE and Joe D level.
IDK, I'd put him right there. MAYBE slightly, and I mean very slightly, below.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:42 pm to Srbtiger06
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IDK, I'd put him right there. MAYBE slightly, and I mean very slightly, below.
So where do you put Whitey Ford??
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:44 pm to dukke v
Yogi and whitey are both 2nd tier guys, so is Jeter.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:46 pm to dukke v
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So where do you put Whitey Ford??
Little below Yogi.
I hate comparing pitchers from way back though. Hitters in general, weren't as powerful, fast, or just all-around good as they are today. Plus you had bigger parks, higher mound, all that shite.
It's way tougher to do "all-time" lists for pitchers than hitters so usually I just don't screw with it
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:51 pm to Srbtiger06
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I hate comparing pitchers from way back though.
Well They were REAL pitchers back then. None of this 5 innings quality start bullshite. This is why I have wandered away from the MLB somewhat. Give me a pitcher that can go the DISTANCE, None of this specialty bullshite. The CG is a thing of the past.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:57 pm to dukke v
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Well They were REAL pitchers back then.
The game has changed. Back in Ford's day you didn't have guys throwing as hard, as fast, or as many different pitches. Pitchers put way more stress on their arms than they used to.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 4:59 pm to PrimetimeDaBoss
A-Rod.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 5:01 pm to Srbtiger06
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The game has changed. Back in Ford's day you didn't have guys throwing as hard, as fast, or as many different pitches.
I agree to a point BUT Sandy Koufax says HIT MY screwball.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 5:03 pm to dukke v
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I agree to a point BUT Sandy Koufax says HIT MY screwball.
Exception, not the rule.
These days they are literally pushing the boundaries (sometimes going WAY over them) as to what the human anatomy can handle.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 5:04 pm to Srbtiger06
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Pitchers put way more stress on their arms than they used to.
For WHAT reason I ask. A guy that throws 25 CG;s a year over a guy that only starts maybe 30 games a year and MAY go 6 innings, vs a guy that starts 38-40 games a year and avg 8 innings????
Posted on 4/29/11 at 5:10 pm to PrimetimeDaBoss
George, followed closely by Billy. 
Posted on 4/29/11 at 5:21 pm to dukke v
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over a guy that only starts maybe 30 games a year and MAY go 6 innings
Peej any pitcher worth a shite doesnt "MAY go 6". Most likely 7-8.
Breaking balls put more stress on arms these days because they're thrown more often and they're thrown harder and they're thrown with more movement. The harder they're thrown, the more stress they put on those ligaments and tendons in the arm. Pitching is already an unnatural motion to begin with so breaking balls just make it worse.
This post was edited on 4/29/11 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 4/29/11 at 5:25 pm to Srbtiger06
I did a paper on it for an English class at LSU a few years ago. I don't remember the exact numbers but I'm looking for one article I cited. It was an interview with James Andrews and he was talking about just what I'm saying. The human arm is built to withstand X lbs. of pressure and the way guys throw today they're going above that amount and they're doing it often.
Posted on 4/29/11 at 6:11 pm to PrimetimeDaBoss
RUTH.... GEHRIG.... then the rest.... RUTH's numbers will never be beat... he is baseball.
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