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re: Grantland is officially dead

Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:20 pm to
#ESPN


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116743 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Only the culture people fired except for Jacoby kinda..


Figured.

I didn't think they would let Lowe go. He knows his shite.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71953 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:23 pm to
But can they keep the sports people once their contracts are up? I'd imagine everybody is pissed at them.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:23 pm to
Mark the Shark Titus is kind of writing his own eulogy on Twitter right now


LINK
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Jon Miller thinks ESPN kept it around to prove they did not need Simmons.


An interesting thought, but now we know for sure they needed him. At least before, ESPN had cover that it didn't matter, it was a bad idea.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39199 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:27 pm to
what a crying shame
simmons built something smart and well written, devoid of clickbait and hot takes, and they killed it

i didnt ever really read the culture stuff, but the baseball/basketball/college football writing on that site is/was the best ive read

they had zach lowe, jonah keri, kirk goldsberry, andrew sharp, holly anderson, matt hinton, etc, etc, etc

frick

Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29241 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:28 pm to
Holly Anderson is going after Jim Miller on Twitter right now.

I loved their podcasts. Watch the thrones and Hollywood prospectus were awesome.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7391 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:31 pm to
Can all those talented young writers but keep tired old lame hacks like Skip Bayless and Leather Berman. Makes perfect sense.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71953 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Holly Anderson is going after Jim Miller on Twitter right now.


I get what she's saying but that's kinda his job and it's not like he was just carrying the ESPN higherup's water, he was saying they were fricking up.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160118 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:38 pm to
Uncle Bill weighing in


quote:

@BillSimmons 30s31 seconds ago
I loved everyone I worked with at G and loved what we built. Watching good/kind/talented people get treated so callously = simply appalling.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29241 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:38 pm to
I agree. Can't say I blame her though. Gotta be a rough day.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Bill Simmons ?@BillSimmons 2m2 minutes ago
I loved everyone I worked with at G and loved what we built. Watching good/kind/talented people get treated so callously = simply appalling.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71953 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:40 pm to
Some dude said they told the staff 1 minute before they sent out the press release.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8246 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:40 pm to
Sweet...has to mean Lowe goes to HBO.
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Mark the Shark Titus is kind of writing his own eulogy on Twitter right now

crazy stuff
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4777 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

principle


Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12502 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

what a crying shame
simmons built something smart and well written, devoid of clickbait and hot takes, and they killed it

i didnt ever really read the culture stuff, but the baseball/basketball/college football writing on that site is/was the best ive read


This.

I loved that they were the antithesis of what ESPN has become in the era of First Take. Whereas ESPN was nothing but a bunch of bloviating gas bags doing hot take drive-bys with myopic, prisoner of the moment vantage points, Grantland provided in-depth, reasoned coverage of sports and its nuances with regard to contracts and schematics.

It's no coincidence that the only recent original content ESPN has done -- Grantland and 30-For-30 -- have been either destroyed or completely watered down.

Heck, even College GameDay, which used to be fantastic, is now nothing more than a less terrible version of First Take with Tom Rinaldi sob stories interspersed throughout.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61837 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

@ChrisBurke_SI: Stephen A. Smith just yelled this at Skip Bayless on "First Take," as Grantland shut down, without a hint of irony:
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9623 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

@ZachLowe_NBA 8m8 minutes ago
Cancel that Lowe Post, @coachthorpe. Tuesday column was gonna be fun, too. Return of the 10 Things I Like and Don't Like!


How depressing for someone of Lowe's talents at writing and analysis.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 10/30/15 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Uncle Bill weighing in


quote:
@BillSimmons 30s31 seconds ago
I loved everyone I worked with at G and loved what we built. Watching good/kind/talented people get treated so callously = simply appalling.


The only issue is that he failed to protect them. The idea that he has no culpability in this event is ridiculous. He quit over relative pennies after hiring these guys for his prestige project. Actions have consequences, and here, Bill's hard line stance cost these guys their jobs.
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