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Golf's governing bodies release draft of proposed rule changes
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:18 am
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:18 am
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I wonder how many tournaments would have had a different outcome with these. DJ comes to mind
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The proposal, which now faces six months of public feedback, reduces the number of rules from 34 to 24. In many cases, penalties have been rescinded. Players no longer will be assessed a one-shot penalty if their golf ball accidentally moves, if their club touches the ground while in a hazard or even if a putt strikes a flagstick that is not being tended.
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Among other proposed rules: -- Instead of only being allowed to repair pitch marks or old hole plugs on the greens, players now can fix just about anything, including spike marks and heel prints. -- Players were disqualified if they used a club that was damaged in anger. Under the proposal, they can still use it. -- Players who touched the line of their putts or the putting green in pointing out a target faced a two-shot penalty. The modern rule has no penalty, provided they are not improving the condition of the putt.
I wonder how many tournaments would have had a different outcome with these. DJ comes to mind
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:23 am to spaceranger
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Players no longer will be assessed a one-shot penalty
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if their club touches the ground while in a hazard
interesting.....
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:26 am to spaceranger
Just bought a copy if the current rules. Looks interesting, though. Always a good idea to look for ways to streamline or simplify the rules
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:35 am to spaceranger
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if their club touches the ground while in a hazard
I like all of them except this.
This makes it harder to hit out of a hazard. It should be really hard to hit out of a hazard.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:36 am to Master of Sinanju
well youve got 2 years before they would take effect if they even make it that far. yeah i feel like being able to ground your club in a bunker just makes it an easier shot.
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 10:37 am
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:37 am to TheCaterpillar
I don't mind it in the bunker. I don't think you should be hacking away in the bunker pre shot. It's a bit ridiculous you can't ground your club when you're in thick rough. Sand, you can get right behind the ball. Thick rough, you might not be able to get anywhere near the ball depending on grass height.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:39 am to spaceranger
I was just reading through the list of changes and I absolutely love them. It's about time they got their head out of their arse and changed some of these awful rules.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:41 am to TheCaterpillar
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I like all of them except this.
Ditto.
Makes it far too easy to improve your lie, which is bs. Might as well play lift, clean, and place
This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 10:42 am
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:46 am to MrCoachKlein
i dont think it can improve the lie really but it does let you get a great feel for what the lie is and how the ball may come out of it
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:49 am to JJ27
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I don't mind it in the bunker. I don't think you should be hacking away in the bunker pre shot. It's a bit ridiculous you can't ground your club when you're in thick rough. Sand, you can get right behind the ball. Thick rough, you might not be able to get anywhere near the ball depending on grass height.
Don't hit it in the super thick rough that is so far off the beaten path its considered a hazard.
The way I see it, that's the same as water. They're both hazards and they're both essentially non-hittable.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:51 am to TheCaterpillar
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Don't hit it in the super thick rough that is so far off the beaten path its considered a hazard.
Theres super thick rough right off the fairway or green in some instances and if the ball is sitting up, you can easily cause it to move by grounding your club like normal behind the ball
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:51 am to spaceranger
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i dont think it can improve the lie really but it does let you get a great feel for what the lie is and how the ball may come out of it
100%
If I can burrow my club on practice swings in the bunker I know exactly what kind of surface I'm dealing with.
I think that is absurd and really changes the game too much.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:52 am to spaceranger
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i dont think it can improve the lie really
It does. Bigly.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:52 am to spaceranger
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Theres super thick rough right off the fairway or green in some instances and if the ball is sitting up, you can easily cause it to move by grounding your club like normal behind the ball
I'm fine with removing the incidental movement rule. I'm saying that I don't like the grounding club in hazard rule. He's talking about tall rough that is a hazard.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:56 am to TheCaterpillar
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If I can burrow my club on practice swings in the bunker I know exactly what kind of surface I'm dealing with.
From the other thread:
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A player may remove loose impediments in the sand and touch the sand with his/her club, although the player cannot deliberately touch the sand to test its condition. Practice swings would still be prohibited.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:56 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:If you read my thread with all the rules or his link, you'd know practice swings still are not allowed in the sand.
If I can burrow my club on practice swings in the bunker I know exactly what kind of surface I'm dealing with.
I think that is absurd and really changes the game too much.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:59 am to MrCoachKlein
if your ball gets plugged in a bunker and you ground your club behind it, its still plugged and doesnt improve the lie.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:01 am to ell_13
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If you read my thread with all the rules or his link, you'd know practice swings still are not allowed in the sand.
The fact that you can touch the sand with your club at all is ridiculous, your feet and your eyes are your tools for understanding the granular makeup of the trap. If you don't think people are going to lay their club behind the base of the ball to help them get beneath it, then idk what to tell you. The original rule needs to stay.
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:03 am to spaceranger
Obviously, but laying your club open beneath the ball essentially lets you tee it up. You'll see a drastic change in the Open coming out of the pot bunkers
Posted on 3/1/17 at 11:04 am to spaceranger
not sure why they're changing the grounding rule in a hazard ... that rule is logical since it could improve a lie ...
why are some of ya'll saying you can't ground a club in the rough?
why are some of ya'll saying you can't ground a club in the rough?
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