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re: Golf needs another dominant figure
Posted on 4/12/22 at 8:26 am to Globetrotter747
Posted on 4/12/22 at 8:26 am to Globetrotter747
He won player of the year in 2013. Then the major back injuries began.
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Posted on 4/12/22 at 8:42 am to Tyga Woods
the talent pool is too deep for domination like tiger
I love watching tiger but golf is great right now.
I love watching tiger but golf is great right now.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 8:43 am to Tyga Woods
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Tiger hasn’t broken Jack’s record because of major injuries
His last major injury was a result of his own stupidity / substances / whatever.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 8:44 am to Stidham8
I'm hoping for a Rory resurgence.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 8:59 am to Paul Allen
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Jason Dufner - very consistent and somewhat popular around 2010 or so, won 2013 PGA Championship and is currently outside of 400th in the world rankings
hasn't been the same since DJ slept with his wife
Keep the Skoal baby
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:05 am to BobLeeDagger
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I'm hoping for a Rory resurgence.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:06 am to Stidham8
Bryson will win more majors than anyone from this point forward.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:12 am to Ghost of Colby
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Brandt Snedeker, Martin Kaymer, and Webb Simpson are a few more from the Dufner, Donald, Mahan, Bradley, etc. generation that looked ready to have breakout careers 10+ years ago.
None of those guys strung together multiple majors, though. Some were barely top 10 golfers in the world. Guys since Tiger who have showed promise to be that guy were Rory, Spieth, and Koepka.
Spieth won three in less than 2 years and was only 24 years old. It's now been almost 5 years since he won his last and doesn't really contend anymore.
Rory won 4 before the age of 25 and won 2 in 2014, and he now hasn't won another since that 2014 run 8 years ago. He's maintained his status as a top 10 golfer consistently but just can't get over the hump in majors. Still has the talent to do it but time isn't on his side like it once was, especially with the new crop of young talent.
Koepka took longer to get to elite status but strung together 4 major wins in 2 years. He's battled some injuries and is certainly still talented enough to go on a run. Honestly, part of me thinks his own ego and trying to look cool has distracted him from doing what he was doing before, just playing golf.
That's really it. DJ won a couple of majors but years apart. The only other young guy I can think of who's won multiple majors at a young age since Tiger began his run has been Colin Morikowa with 2 and he's still only 25 years old.
It's hard for me to say guys who won one or no majors looked ready to break out on a all-time run. Martin Kaymer? Eh, maybe. He was #1 in the world for like 2 months and won two majors 4-5 years apart. But the guy also only won 3 PGA Tour events in his career.
The guys right now who are young and have a chance but need to start winning multiple majors to be the next all-time "guy," are John Rahm, Scottie Scottie Scheffler, Justin Thomas, and Collin Morikawa. I'm not ready to say guys like Cam Smith, Xander Schauffele, or Viktor Hovland. They could be fools gold just like Rickie Fowler for all we know.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 9:18 am
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:14 am to weagle99
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And he is half black
Earl woods was half black. Tiger is 1/4 black.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:17 am to Tiger Ryno
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Bryson will win more majors than anyone from this point forward.
no way. Bryson has 2 top 10 finishes in majors and hasn't even been in contention outside of those two tournaments. If Bryson stops focusing on his ball speeds and how far he can hit it and got back to the other aspects of the game, maybe. He has far too many weaknesses in the rest of his game to win with any consistency. The dude won 5 tournaments in 2018, and he wasn't a roided out freak seeing how far he could hit the ball doing it.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:21 am to lsufball19
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The guys right now who are young and have a chance but need to start winning multiple majors to be the next all-time "guy," are John Rahm, Scottie Scottie Scheffler, Justin Thomas, and Collin Morikawa. I'm not ready to say guys like Cam Smith, Xander Schauffele, or Viktor Hovland. They could be fools gold just like Rickie Fowler for all we know.
I think Rickie is a pretty unique case. He had a few years where he was playing really good with a game that looked like it could last. Made a shite pile of money outside of the course and has never been the same.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:22 am to Tiger Ryno
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Bryson will win more majors than anyone from this point forward
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:26 am to lsufball19
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The guys right now who are young and have a chance but need to start winning multiple majors to be the next all-time "guy," are John Rahm, Scottie Scottie Scheffler, Justin Thomas, and Collin Morikawa
They’re all great and fun to watch. But they will never reach a level of dominance like Phil or Tom Watson, much less Tiger. There’s too much money out there. Most people will quickly develop other interests when they have $50mm in the bank.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:26 am to lsufball19
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Bryson has 2 top 10 finishes in majors and hasn't even been in contention outside of those two tournaments. If Bryson stops focusing on his ball speeds and how far he can hit it and got back to the other aspects of the game, maybe. He has far too many weaknesses in the rest of his game to win with any consistency. The dude won 5 tournaments in 2018, and he wasn't a roided out freak seeing how far he could hit the ball doing it.
Unless the USGA makes some pretty drastic changes, big hitters will continue to dominate the US Open. So a healthy Bryson will have success.
He has struggled in the open and the masters. The greens have dominated him at Augusta, i don't see that changing.
He can pull off a PGA depending on the course.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:28 am to beaverfever
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I probably wouldnt give too much of a shite about golf, either, if I had $50M in the bank and this locked with me in a Florida beach house every day....
I would not either. Nor would 99% of the men in this world. I am just giving the reason. Drive and motivation, not success, is what separated Tiger from the others.
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tbf Rickie Fowler was never as good as the other three guys you mentioned.
He was winning the Players Championship and now cannot qualify for it. He was ranked No. 4 in the world. He is now no. 122. He’s fallen further than they have.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 9:32 am
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:29 am to weagle99
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His last major injury was a result of his own stupidity / substances / whatever.
his back injury? No it wasn't. The only injury that was a result of any sort of stupidity was him tearing his ACL back in the late 00s doing seal training stuff that was completely unnecessary. Back injuries happen. Many great golfers have suffered the same fate.
I mean if we're talking about his car wreck at 45, that isn't what derailed him catching Jack.
This post was edited on 4/12/22 at 9:32 am
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:30 am to go ta hell ole miss
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He was winning the Players Championship and now cannot qualify for it. He was ranked No. 4 in the world. He is now no. 122. He’s fallen further than they have.
with top 3s in every major. Runner up in masters, open, and US open.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:30 am to Dire Wolf
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big hitters will continue to dominate the US Open. So a healthy Bryson will have success.
Bryson's short game and putting is dreadful. He may have a good week like he did in that one win, but that's not a game that is going to travel well with any consistency. I don't care how far he hits it.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:31 am to lsufball19
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Rory won 4 before the age of 25 and won 2 in 2014, and he now hasn't won another since that 2014 run 8 years ago. He's maintained his status as a top 10 golfer consistently but just can't get over the hump in majors. Still has the talent to do it but time isn't on his side like it once was, especially with the new crop of young talent.
Rory will be 33 in less than a month, he still has a good 10 years of top play left. I agree w/the rest of your post.
Posted on 4/12/22 at 9:34 am to go ta hell ole miss
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He was winning the Players Championship and now cannot qualify for it. He was ranked No. 4 in the world. He is now no. 122. He’s fallen further than they have.
Right, but Rickie has 5 career wins on tour spread out over 8 years. He was consistently right there but never consistently winning
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