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re: From ESPN: which pitcher deserves to be in HoF?

Posted on 1/2/15 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by LL012697
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 4:27 pm to
Jmo I don't think any of those guys are hall of famers
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 4:44 pm to
How the hell is Schilling not a lock for the hall?
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 5:01 pm to
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Pitcher A is Don Drysdale

Pitcher B is Milt Pappas (Frank Robinson trade)


I've said for years that Don Drysdale is the Joe Namath of the baseball HOF. He was an ironman for about 7-8 years. But he had one (maybe two) dominant years, and only had three seasons where he was better than +4 W/L.

He's basically Roy Halliday with 60 more losses. And Drysdale pitched in a high-mound/no dominant hitter era while Halliday pitched at the decline of the Steroid Era.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:32 pm to
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Why in the hell do people feel the need to put that much space in their posts ? It's fricking stupid !


Civfanatics has a feature where you put that information inside a "spoiler" tag. In order yo read the spoilers, you have to click an extra button.

Get on it Chicken!!

Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 6:38 pm to
Smoltz and Mussina.
You didn't include Smoltz' saves. They are necessary for his case, and really close it in his favor.
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 3:39 am to
Yup. Purposefully failing to tell the whole story
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:15 pm to
Personally I think the save portion is overrated, while the rest of the pitchers were pitching 3x the inning which helps their teams more than the 60-70 innings Smoltz was pitching then.
Posted by FinkyStinger
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 12:43 pm to
But remember, Smoltz only switched to the bullpen because he was recovering from Tommy John surgery. He ended up doing well and filled a team need thus stayed in the pen for four years.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 1:07 pm to
He came back in 01 was ineffective as a starter so the Braves moved him to the pen. He stayed there 3 years (took over closer role from Rocker towards end of 01 I believe)

As the article states and I believe it, any elite starter can be a dominant closet if given the opportunity. Smoltz does have a CY Young where Mussina and Schilling don't which seperates him and he was part of a dominant Braves rotation. With Maddux/Glavine going in i think it helps Smoltz.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:18 pm to
Schiling and Smoltz are 2 of the GOAT playoff pitchers and should be 100% HOF locks

Brown is fringe

No to Mussina and Cone
This post was edited on 1/3/15 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Alan Garner
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 2:40 pm to
You'd have to include Smoltz's saves but that would give him away.
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