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re: Freeh report is out: "PSU showed 'total disregard' for Sandusky victims"
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:23 am to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:23 am to Rickety Cricket
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He is making himself look AWFUL
What's he saying?
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:24 am to Rickety Cricket
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Why the frick are they allowing Matt Millen to comment on this?
He is making himself look AWFUL
He's looked like an idiot for years.
This time it's morally reprehensible in addition to being stupid.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:24 am to Damn Good Dawg
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. i have no ties to their football program
you had school administrators refusing to go to the police and covering up the crimes.
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n fact i have always rooted against them
Then you should be all for the DP for PSU football from the NCAA
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:25 am to piggilicious
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what do you suggest, forgiving and forgetting? sorry for pedofiling?
Punish the individuals who were involved in the cover up.
Don't punish those who weren't involved.
Pretty simple.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:26 am to Damn Good Dawg
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that being said none of you pricks really have any credibility in the matter, especially when you think the whole school should burn because it's leadership was so fricking crooked.
Agreed. It's a stupid, intellectually lazy argument.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:26 am to Damn Good Dawg
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i figure the ensuing law suits and all the bull shite you idiots will say for years to come will do more than enough damage to the university
good.
per the lawsuits comment, i don't see how that's that far off from what i said excluding the lack of fondness or sentimentality towards psu that you have.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:26 am to barry
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I'm not saying shut down the university, but innocent people will suffer collateral damage, thats the way it goes. It just makes the acts of criminals that much more selfish
And you try to MINIMIZE collateral damage. Some on this thread seem to be advocating a course of action that has no regard for that concept.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:27 am to barry
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but innocent people will suffer collateral damage, thats the way it goes.
That doesn't make it right. Punish those who deserve it. It seems really simple to me.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:27 am to CptBengal
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you had school administrators refusing to go to the police and covering up the crimes.
Punish those individuals. Not people who had nothing to do with it.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:28 am to Sophandros
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And you try to MINIMIZE collateral damage.
yep DP the football program. Keep the punishment where it belongs.
The school is a great research institution and will be fine.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:28 am to CptBengal
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CptBengal
i do not argue the wrong their administration did. i'll admit i was slow to blaming joe pa but the evidence is damning and he's gonna have that on his legacy forever. i don't think it completely outweighs all the good he has done in state college but i don't expect anyone outside the area to understand that really either and that isn't a flame which leads me to
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Then you should be all for the DP for PSU football from the NCAA
no. i hate PSU football but i don't wish this on even UF or GT. this is awful, especially for a school that has as much pride as PSU. it was essentially the semester from hell from what i heard for students who had no part in the atrocities. while i hate their annoying arse fans and their football team i would never hope for the absolution of PSU or it's football program. if anyone needs football to help forget what their school's leaders have just done it is the PSU fans
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sophandros
THANK YOU
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:29 am to RJYH
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That doesn't make it right. Punish those who deserve it. It seems really simple to me.
Yea but there are people and the institution. It's really difficult to separate the two.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:30 am to Sophandros
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And you try to MINIMIZE collateral damage.
agreed
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Some on this thread seem to be advocating a course of action that has no regard for that concept.
I was just sort of trying to ignore those knuckleheads
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:31 am to piggilicious
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piggilicious
you want the school to collapse. that's a little off from me saying they have an uphill battle fighting these lawsuits. PSU has enough budget issues as is, this will have a resounding effect for decades monetarily as it will emotionally
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MStreet
thank god we got several dudes here who aren't all about obliterating a school
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:32 am to Damn Good Dawg
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don't think it completely outweighs all the good he has done in state college but i don't expect anyone outside the area to understand that really either
I know what good he did. I was a lifeguard in Avalon NJ, 50th street beach. He ran by my stand every morning in June. talked with him many many times...really nice guy.
Doesn't excuse covering up for a pedo for decades.
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it was essentially the semester from hell from what i heard for students who had no part in the atrocities
no student had part. The FB program did.
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. if anyone needs football to help forget what their school's leaders have just done it is the PSU fans
Football is what led to the atrocities occurring and being serially covered up for decades.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:34 am to CptBengal
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Football is what led to the atrocities occurring and being serially covered up for decades.
EXACTLY
Would this have occurred if he was the Basketball coach or an accounting professor?
Highly unlikely.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 10:34 am
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:34 am to CptBengal
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I know what good he did. I was a lifeguard in Avalon NJ, 50th street beach. He ran by my stand every morning in June. talked with him many many times...really nice guy.
Doesn't excuse covering up for a pedo for decades.
it's more than "he was a nice guy"
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no student had part. The FB program did.
yea that's been established
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Football is what led to the atrocities occurring and being serially covered up for decades.
ok, so because this happened we should punish current coaches, players, students and fans? did you miss the example earlier where if a husband kills in the name of his family you don't arrest the husband AND his family?
i'm not arguing for the sake of arguing and i don't argue your intelligence but why should everyone be punished?
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:37 am to bwallcubfan
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He is making himself look AWFUL
What's he saying?
Basically said that covering up this little child rape scandal really shouldnt outweigh the 50 years of good that Paterno did for Penn State
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:38 am to barry
I think lack of institutional control is one helluva ironic term in this case. If anything, PSU had impeccable control of the entire fricking city. Granted, that control was used to cover up atrocities, but to think that they didn't have control is comical.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:39 am to Damn Good Dawg
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it's more than "he was a nice guy"
i should have expounded., He told me about the charities he worked with, the people he helped find homes and jobs, his connection with former players long after the careers with Penn State were over, etc.
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ok, so because this happened we should punish current coaches, players, students and fans?
I'm sorry. But the FB program covered this up for decades. There are multiple confirmed counts of crimes against kids that were covered up TO PROTECT THE FB PROGRAM, for decades.
Current players should be given a chance to transfer by the NCAA. They're good enough to play at PSU, somebody will give them a shot.
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did you miss the example earlier where if a husband kills in the name of his family you don't arrest the husband AND his family?
Lulz. That example is bullshite.
FIFY:
If a man kills someone else, and his family helps cover up the crime...THEY ALL GO TO JAIL.
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