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re: Formula 1 2020 Season Thread
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:31 pm to GumpInLex
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:31 pm to GumpInLex
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, Albon was on a set of fresh soft tires while Hamilton was still running on the hard tires. DRS + softs would have seen Albon overtake Hamilton on a straight if he had been more patient. Especially since Hamilton was being directed not to drive onto any of the kerbs due to the sensor issue that both Mercs were having.
Nailed it.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:12 pm to BottomlandBrew
He’s incredibly talented, and super whiney
Posted on 7/6/20 at 7:20 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Like when his engineer told him to stay off the curbs and his reply was "But Bottas is going on the curbs more than me." Dude can drive, but he can also bitch.
meh - to the complaint on this comment. He probably thought Merc was embellishing this a bit so he wouldn't attack and possibly ruin the 1-2. Can't fault the guy for always wanting to win.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 9:57 am to theone
Alonso is returning in 2021. Will drive for Renault.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:12 am to xtremecouture23
Welp... looks like Seb may be the odd man out
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:12 am to xtremecouture23
I started watching last year so I don't know much about Alonso other than what you read from others, that he's a toxic prick. If that's the case I look forward to his interactions with Renault and Ocon next year.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:21 am to TheArrogantCorndog
Yes. Going to be very interesting to see if Seb has a ride next year.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:26 am to xtremecouture23
I thought he was going to be the driver for McLaren Indy racing?
This is sad considering McLaren is moving forward/up the pack while Renault is falling behind. I don't see his added value to Renault...greater driver but the machine doesn't meet his skill level.
This is sad considering McLaren is moving forward/up the pack while Renault is falling behind. I don't see his added value to Renault...greater driver but the machine doesn't meet his skill level.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:34 am to YOURADHERE
Well you might want to brush up on your history.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:35 am to TheArrogantCorndog
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Welp... looks like Seb may be the odd man out
Albon is probably looking over both shoulders.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 10:55 am to YOURADHERE
He's really talented. I think he gets too much of the blame for his time with Hamilton. The British press always covers for Lewis and made Alonso look like the villain, when they were both responsible for their feud.
He will be difficult to manage though if things aren't going well. He was fairly toxic in his second stint at McLaren.
He will be difficult to manage though if things aren't going well. He was fairly toxic in his second stint at McLaren.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:21 pm to JoeHackett
Alonso handled himself poorly in 2007, but McLaren also made the unprecedented move to let a second driver, a rookie at that, share data with a world champion.
Hamilton's team was fed information they should not have had, and they suffered greatly down the stretch when it was cut off.
Hamilton's team was fed information they should not have had, and they suffered greatly down the stretch when it was cut off.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:25 pm to AlonsoWDC
Also toxic is really being overused here because of a goddamned in-race remark about GP2 engines.
Honda's tenure with McLaren was a joke and Alonso achieved more in those shitty four cars than imaginable otherwise.
Honda's tenure with McLaren was a joke and Alonso achieved more in those shitty four cars than imaginable otherwise.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 12:43 pm to fightin tigers
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If Albon is more experienced that crash doesn't happen.
This wasn't due to Albon's experience, it was Hamilton hubris that caused the incident. That or protecting Bottas.
Albon was alongside Hamilton and leading slightly going into the corner and was on fresh soft tires. The pass was made. Albon had the lead prior to the apex. Hamilton saw him. He wasn't locking up his tires into the corner, he had ample grip left. You can see it in the racing line he took as he came out of the corner.
Its easy to not run your competitor off the track in that situation. You just don't push the right pedal as much so your front tires can corner. Hamilton tried to out accelerate Albon out of the corner and under-steered into Albon. He completely deserved the penalty and it was a lame decision on his part.
Go back and watch the video and listen to Hamiltons throttle inputs. Pros drive as much with the gas pedal as the steering wheel. All he had to do was lift slightly. Hamilton needed to tip his hat and didn't. He lost P2 and P3 because of it. Who knows if Albon catches Bottas...or if Lando makes his way into p3...or if Hamilton makes his way back around Albon...etc, etc. Regardless, it was a great race!!
Posted on 7/7/20 at 1:47 pm to geauxturbo
I have seen many many breakdowns of the incident in the last few days. No one has blamed Albon, including me.
No one has not blamed Hamilton, including me.
No one has not blamed Hamilton, including me.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 2:02 pm to geauxturbo
Hamilton was going to have a wide exit off the corner due to his entry angle closing off the corner before the apex... I think he played into that and let the car run wide just enough to force Albon to back off, however Albon was too far passed that point and was already in the process of completing the pass
As far as this
I think F1 and FIA have put themselves into a place where the result of the incident dictates the penalty... and that is something I dont agree with
Regardless, it's still Hamilton's fault and a lame move
As far as this
quote:
He completely deserved the penalty
I think F1 and FIA have put themselves into a place where the result of the incident dictates the penalty... and that is something I dont agree with
Regardless, it's still Hamilton's fault and a lame move
Posted on 7/7/20 at 2:08 pm to fightin tigers
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I have seen many many breakdowns of the incident in the last few days. No one has blamed Albon, including me.
No one has not blamed Hamilton, including me.
What you said was "if Albon is more experienced, the crash doesn't happen." That's nonsense.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 7/7/20 at 2:22 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:
I think F1 and FIA have put themselves into a place where the result of the incident dictates the penalty... and that is something I dont agree with
There has been several incidents over the last couple years where this seems to be the case.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 2:42 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
quote:
I think F1 and FIA have put themselves into a place where the result of the incident dictates the penalty... and that is something I dont agree with
Very true. More objectivity would be welcome by me.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 2:43 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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I think F1 and FIA have put themselves into a place where the result of the incident dictates the penalty... and that is something I dont agree with
Not sure what you mean here, are you saying all penalties should be uniform in application?
Shouldn’t the result of the incident determine the severity or application of the penalty?
What Hamilton did to Albon should have resulted in a 5 second penalty, at the very least. With only 11 laps remaining, He robbed Albon of a podium and Red Bull of constructors points. Therefore I think the penalty should be more severe. As an example to the contrary, say Grosjean Is doing Grosjean things and crashes out Latifi who has P20 locked and whose only battle is to be lapped by the field just once. Outside of Williams getting money from Haas, does a penalty even matter?
And Thank You Lord that F1 has resumed. I’ve missed the races and these threads.
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