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re: For those that believe the NFL is rigged, what would it take to convince you otherwise?

Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
11987 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:29 pm to
I don’t believe the NFL is scripted but I would never say it’s 100 percent legit either.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29188 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:09 pm to
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If the NFL is scripted, then I wish someone would hurry and include the Bills in the fricking script.


At some point, they need to throw the Bills, Browns, Lions, and Falcons a bone.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8832 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:55 am to
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This is about to set the record for most people viewing a televised event/show...what the heck are you talking about?

Michigan population-10 million
California-39 million


Good prediction!!!!

LINK
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
5919 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:11 pm to
Bubba Smith went to his grave believing Super Bowl III was fixed.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
5919 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:36 pm to
I disliked the Patriots and dislike the NFL, but the ref crew and NY didn’t force the Rams to turn the ball over three times and go to the red zone only once. Nor forcing Martz not to utilize Faulk more.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 12:39 pm to
Not to mention they faced off in Foxboro earlier in the year with the Rams winning by a TD.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8832 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Bubba Smith went to his grave believing Super Bowl III was fixed.


That is because it was!!!

Everyone knew the NFL was the superior league and that Jets win led to the merger.


This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6598 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:31 pm to
I'm just wondering if they were scripting it for the chiefs to win, why did they throw that defensive holding flag when the 49ers were gonna have to punt in overtime.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:52 pm to
And never cited a bit of evidence other than Earl Morrall … a career journeyman … having a bad game.

Memo to conspiracy theorists: There really is not that much of a chasm in talent between the best teams and the worst teams in professional sports, and that is why it is absolutely possible for the worst professional team to beat the best professional team on a given day in any sport. The frickin’ 1962 New York Mets managed to win 40 games.

Memo 2 to conspiracy theorists: Sometimes caca just happens. Someone once stuck a microphone in the great NASCAR driver Fireball Roberts’ face after an accident and asked him what happened and he responded, “I crashed. It’s possible to just crash, you know.”
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:54 pm to
And the 1919 Black Sox were caught and run out of baseball forever. Your point?
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 2:57 pm to
Of course they want new eyes watching their product? Do you think ANY sports league, including the NCAA, really intends to cater only to middle-aged conservative or blue collar Southern or Midwestern men anymore, ever? They are playing the long game and anticipating serious demographic changes and changes in who’s going to have the disposable income to spend on their products.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Nevada
Member since Nov 2019
425 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:13 pm to
Seattle scores winning TD with First and goal from the one yd line.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50337 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:25 am to
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I'm just wondering if they were scripting it for the chiefs to win, why did they throw that defensive holding flag when the 49ers were gonna have to punt in overtime.


That penalty was a gift, and Chokehan fricked it up later.

KC was gifted big time by not being called for holding once all game. I still can't believe that. The other thread confirmed it, but I thought for sure they were called at least once. As much as they held all game, it would seem at least once it would have been spotted. SF lost two first downs with (legit) holding calls.

The most penalized Oline in the NFL did not commit one penalty Sunday. That's laughable.

Either way, Shanahan choked the game away by not running the ball. He does that, SF wins. Third time in his career he loses the game the exact same way. What a dumbass.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8832 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:25 pm to
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Impact on Fans and Integrity of the Game

The revelation that the NFL is legally allowed to fix game outcomes as an entertainment business has sent shockwaves through the fan community and raised profound concerns about the integrity of the sport. Fans are the lifeblood of professional football, investing their passion, loyalty, and unwavering support in their favorite teams and players. The emotional and psychological impact of realizing that game outcomes may be manipulated within the confines of the law has sparked a seismic shift in the fan experience.




LINK

Read the whole article...it describes most of y'all saying its not rigged or influenced.

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34725 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8832 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:23 pm to
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NEW YORK, May 19 (Reuters) - A New York Jets football fan cannot pursue his $184.8 million lawsuit over the secret videotaping of signals from Jets coaches by archrival New England Patriots, a federal appeals court has ruled.

Wednesday's unanimous ruling by a panel of the U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a lower court dismissal of the lawsuit by Carl Mayer, a Princeton, New Jersey, lawyer with Jetsseason tickets, in a scandal known as "Spygate."

The case arose from the videotaping by a Patriots employee of signals from the Jets sideline in a Sept. 9, 2007, game.

The Patriots won 38-14, but the National Football League later fined the team and coach Bill Belichick, and stripped it of a 2008 first-round draft pick.

Mayer alleged the games were essentially rigged, saying the Patriots and Belichick defrauded ticketholders, and raised a claim against the NFL for destroying the videotapes.

But the appeals court said ticketholders possess only licenses or contractual rights to see games, and that it is up to the NFL to enforce its own rules if something goes amiss.

"We do not condone the conduct on the part of the Patriots and the team's head coach, and we likewise refrain from assessing whether the NFL's sanctions (and its alleged destruction of the videotapes themselves) were otherwise appropriate," Judge Robert Cowen wrote for the court.

He said unhappy fans can vent their frustration in other ways, including speaking out against the Patriots, Belichick or the league, or refusing to buy tickets or NFL merchandise.

"The one thing they cannot do is bring a legal action in a court of law," Cowen wrote.


Bruce Afran, a lawyer working with Mayer, said the ruling "invites professional teams to cheat, without liability to fans who pay to support them. It strikes us as very strange that one can spend tens of thousands of dollars for season tickets and have no right to be protected from fraud."

Afran said he would speak with Mayer to decide whether to appeal. Mayer, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello and a lawyer for the Patriots and Belichick did not immediately return calls seeking a comment.

Mayer had sought damages of $61.6 million representing the cost of tickets for Jets-Patriots games at Giants Stadium from 2000 through 2007, covering Belichick's tenure as coach, and wanted that sum tripled under federal racketeering laws.

The case is Mayer v. Belichick et al, U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals, No. 09-02237.




LINK to article

PDF Link to Downlaod the ruling
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 2:32 pm
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8832 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:27 pm to
So if the NFL wants the Rams in the Super Bowl they can ignore pass interference.

If they want Tom Brady to win one his 1st year without CBB...they can do it.

If they want the Chief's to win back to back they can.

So at this point...y'all are as annoying as Pro-Lifers...and nothing is going to change your mind.

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Although there are few cases on point, in general in New Jersey, a “ticket is to be regarded as a mere license, for the revocation of which before the holder has actually been given his seat, and has taken it, the only remedy is in assumpsit for a breach of the contract.” Shubert v. Nixon Amusement Co., 83 N.J.L. 101, 105 (N.J. Sup. Ct. 1912). As the language of the New Jersey Supreme Court in Shubert suggests, there may be a remedy where a ticket has not been honored, but there is no remedy at law where the ticket-holder has been granted admission and subsequently complains about the quality, or here, the “honesty,” of the conduct of the event. This principle has also been recognized by courts in cases such as In re 2005 United States Grand Prix and Castillo v. Tyson, and this Court follows the lead of those decisions.
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 2:41 pm
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
5546 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:22 am to
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Although there are few cases on point, in general in New Jersey, a “ticket is to be regarded as a mere license, for the revocation of which before the holder has actually been given his seat, and has taken it, the only remedy is in assumpsit for a breach of the contract.” Shubert v. Nixon Amusement Co., 83 N.J.L. 101, 105 (N.J. Sup. Ct. 1912). As the language of the New Jersey Supreme Court in Shubert suggests, there may be a remedy where a ticket has not been honored, but there is no remedy at law where the ticket-holder has been granted admission and subsequently complains about the quality, or here, the “honesty,” of the conduct of the event. This principle has also been recognized by courts in cases such as In re 2005 United States Grand Prix and Castillo v. Tyson, and this Court follows the lead of those decisions.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50337 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 7:30 am to
So someone presents a legal case, with a legal review by a judge, and the response is an emoji.

A legal ruling that it is protected entertainment is as authentic of an argument that one can make.

Then, every Sunday, with your eyes and ears, you can see this play out.

Yes, it is laughable at this point if you deny it.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34725 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 8:22 am to
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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