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re: Fedor / UFC Update
Posted on 7/30/09 at 7:27 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 7/30/09 at 7:27 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
i like how you left out these parts
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Raimond also confirmed that the UFC conceded to allow Emelianenko to continue to compete in sambo, of which he is a national champion and spokesman, and noted during the meeting that the fighter was free to wear M-1 clothing.
“That’s like telling someone they’re allowed to eat,” said Raimond, suggesting it wasn’t a significant concession.
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We made it clear that Fedor, now and forever is part, even part owner, of M-1 and those two cannot be separated,” Raimond said. “If the rest of M-1 is excluded from any kind of deal, it makes the deal difficult.”
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Posted on 7/30/09 at 7:31 pm to Maximus
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i like how you left out these parts
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We made it clear that Fedor, now and forever is part, even part owner, of M-1 and those two cannot be separated,” Raimond said. “If the rest of M-1 is excluded from any kind of deal, it makes the deal difficult.”
BOOM
Posted on 7/30/09 at 7:34 pm to fightingtiger2335
Nobody is saying that there aren't great fighters in Japan or elsewhere. But I think everyone can agree on the fact that if you want to consistently be surrounded by the best fighters, then the UFC is the place to be. Yeah Dream puts on some great shows, but I have also seen fights on there where a decent middle tier fighter in that organization was fighting a guy with a record of 5-11. That's awesome.
Posted on 7/30/09 at 7:35 pm to Maximus
I was not trying to leave out anything dumbass. The sambo thing was part of the original update and already known. I also already stated Fedor was part owner of M-1 (specifically in this thread), which is already a well known fact.
Thank you for pointing it out Captain Obvious. Even though it is already "Germans" even within this thread. There are a lot more paragraphs in the article if you want to post those too.
Thank you for pointing it out Captain Obvious. Even though it is already "Germans" even within this thread. There are a lot more paragraphs in the article if you want to post those too.
Posted on 7/30/09 at 7:38 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I think the strong wording of "Fedor is now and forever a part of M-1" was worth repeating.
Posted on 7/30/09 at 7:47 pm to etm512
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I think the strong wording of "Fedor is now and forever a part of M-1" was worth repeating.
yeah, without a doubt.
Posted on 7/30/09 at 7:49 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
you obviously tried to frame the article as "look, Dana is lying about Fedor and M-1" when even in their own words they're coming off as leeches hanging from Fedor's nuts ungreatful for any concession the UFC will ever give them.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 8:16 am to Vood
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Japan = Freakshow Fights.
Way to lose all credibility.
does japan have freak show fights? Hell yeah.
Do they also have really good fights? Hell yeah.
Dream and Sengoku both put on good shows.
When Pride was at it's peak it had better fighter than the UFC. That's why they bought it, and thats why all those guys (not named Fedor) are fighting in the UFC now.
The most watched MMA fight in the US drew 6.5 million viewers... it was Kimbo Slice and not in the UFC. UFC 100 did 1.5 mil ppv buys, there 2nd best show.
The most watched MMA fight in Japan had 54 Million viewers. (more than 8x as many consumer eyes)
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:10 am to LSUgrasshopper
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The most watched MMA fight in Japan had 54 Million viewers. (more than 8x as many consumer eyes)
non PPV
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:34 am to skullhawk
The UFC hosted a big fight card with their marquee guy at the time in Anderson Silva for free on spike last fall. It apparently did not even have the number of viewers Kimbo Slice had, which is not even in the same league as 54 million in Japan.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:39 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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The UFC hosted a big fight card with their marquee guy at the time in Anderson Silva for free on spike last fall.
Cable channel
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not even have the number of viewers Kimbo Slice had
analog channel. Anyone with bunny ears could watch this.
Not disputing the Japanese fascination, but less viewers for a spike show compared to CBS isn't that surprising.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:42 am to MSMHater
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analog channel. Anyone with bunny ears could watch this
People still have bunny ears? I thought they quit broadcasting that a while back.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 10:58 am to skullhawk
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The most watched MMA fight in Japan had 54 Million viewers. (more than 8x as many consumer eyes)
non PPV
and non ppv it's 6.5 vs 53 mil. And the ufc non ppv numbers on spike don't come close to 6.5.
What makes more money. A shitty reality show on CBS, or a TUF on Spike....
Posted on 7/31/09 at 11:21 am to LSUgrasshopper
agree w max on this one
Posted on 7/31/09 at 11:32 am to LSUgrasshopper
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and non ppv it's 6.5 vs 53 mil. And the ufc non ppv numbers on spike don't come close to 6.5.
What makes more money. A shitty reality show on CBS, or a TUF on Spike....
you do realize that anything on a major traditional non-cable network virtually always outdraws cable channel and PPV channels, right? Also, just basing success on the number of consumer eyes makes no sense considering the vastly different profitability per view of PPV vs. cable. If that many viewers on the CBS was so great the company wouldn't be gone..... meanwhhile the UFC continues to strengthen their financial base.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 11:56 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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The UFC hosted a big fight card with their marquee guy at the time in Anderson Silva for free on spike last fall. It apparently did not even have the number of viewers Kimbo Slice had, which is not even in the same league as 54 million in Japan.
If UFC put on a UFC 100 type card and it played on ABC, NBC, or CBS and they marketed the shite out of it then that 6.5 for Kimbo would be shattered.
Another thing you have to factor in with PPV #s is that people get together or go somewhere to watch these fights.
I can't seem to find a link but I saw an interview with Dana White and the UFC conducted some survey that equated one PPV buy to 7 people watching.
I know that the UFC will never touch 54 million viewers. Nothing on US TV will. There are too many options.
All Japan has is game shows and scat videos.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 12:31 pm to skullhawk
Posted on 7/31/09 at 12:54 pm to skullhawk
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If UFC put on a UFC 100 type card and it played on ABC, NBC, or CBS and they marketed the shite out of it then that 6.5 for Kimbo would be shattered.
if if if... yeah maybe.
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Another thing you have to factor in with PPV #s is that people get together or go somewhere to watch these fights.
and you still admit on network tv they do no where near 54 million.
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All Japan has is game shows and scat videos.
Your right bunch of backward perverts with no lives... nothing good comes out of that country... oh wait, that's not right... you're an idiot.
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I know that the UFC will never touch 54 million viewers.
Doesn't matter really, All that matters you pull you head out of your arse and realize the US market isn't the end all be all. It's a big market, but it's not the only one. And Fedor is the face of the EA MMA game... that's about as marketable as any UFC fighter is going to get. UFC sells the brand and they sell it well.
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Nothing on US TV will. There are too many options.
last years Super bowl got 95 mil, the Friends finale did 52.5 and the survior season one finale did 51.7 ... you continue to not know what you're talking about.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 1:03 pm to LSUgrasshopper
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Doesn't matter really, All that matters you pull you head out of your arse and realize the US market isn't the end all be all
Which is why Dana's biggest efforts now are going toward the globalization of the UFC.
Posted on 7/31/09 at 1:07 pm to LSUgrasshopper
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Doesn't matter really, All that matters you pull you head out of your arse and realize the US market isn't the end all be all. It's a big market, but it's not the only one.
uhh....have you not noticed the recent sold out UFC shows in europe?
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