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re: Face it Federer is the GOAT

Posted on 7/12/15 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 11:52 am to
How is Djokovic a chief rival and not Roddick?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 11:53 am to
I know, I'm just stirring the pot. But, there are a few fools over on Talk Tennis board that are pounding the idea that a guy cannot be the GOAT if he doesn't have a winning record against his biggest rivals.
Posted by thewarmth
Bali
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 11:54 am to
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Roddick is a nobody? If it wasn't for fed he would have about 6-7 grand slam titles. For a while Fed was the only person on the planet who could stop Andy at Wimbledon


Roddick lost 3 Wimbledon and a U.S. Open to Fed. He was never winning 6-7
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 11:56 am to
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Roddick lost 3 Wimbledon and a U.S. Open to Fed. He was never winning 6-7



He also lost to Fed in the QF and SF of a couple slams... Without Federer, Roddick wins 6-8.
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 11:58 am to
Djokovic is beating a Federer who is 34. He's going to end up with the better head to head because of these wins late in Fed's career. Fed got Nole his fair share of times. He beat Novak in 2011 at Roland Garros, which was Novak's best season. Got him at Wimbledon in 2012. They've both won twice a piece in their primes at the U.S. Open.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:01 pm to
I feel like Federer has hurt his resume the last three years, according to some posters. He's given a lot of wins to his rivals. If he had just retired, his head-to-head records would be better and he would still have the same amount of majors.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:02 pm to
If people can't realize how amazing Fed has been in his 30s they are just pure retards that should lose their right to vote.
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:12 pm to
Which his ridiculous. His longevity and age should be celebrated, not admonished. He's playing far better than Sampras or Agassi at this age. Playing the best ever for his age, to be honest
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:15 pm to
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I feel like Federer has hurt his resume the last three years, according to some posters. He's given a lot of wins to his rivals. If he had just retired, his head-to-head records would be better and he would still have the same amount of majors.



I don't even kow how to respond to this

The dude is playing elite tennis at 33. He just played like shite today against the best player in the world
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:46 pm to
Was Pistol Pete even playing at 33?

Agassi won Aussie at 32 IIRC.



Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 12:46 pm to
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I don't even kow how to respond to this

The dude is playing elite tennis at 33. He just played like shite today against the best player in the world


I was pointing out what posters were doing. I don't agree with it. It's like penalizing LeBron for losing in the Finals.
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 1:22 pm to
Was anyone at Federer's age ranked no.2 in the world?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 1:26 pm to
No they were ranked number 1

Andre Agassi was ranked 1 at age 33

But to be fair ATP didn't rank players until 73. So Laver may have been also.
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 1:28 pm to
Damn that's pretty legit. I've been watching tennis since 99-00 but it completely slipped my mind that Agassi was ranked no.1 at that age. I was only 10 years old then but I remember Hewitt, Roddick, Pat Rafter, and Marat Safin being the big guns with a Goran Ivanesevic Wimbledon victory splashed in and Gustavo Kuerten winning RG, moreso than I do Agassi as a no.1
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 1:32 pm
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
1377 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 1:33 pm to
Pete's ranking tanked in his final years, didn't it? Won the 02 U.S. open, but not as a top 10 player, from what I remember
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 1:35 pm to
Sampras and Agassi both won one last grand slam. Doesn't look like Fed will be able to.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 1:59 pm to
It slipped once he got married to Bridget and stopped playing the events other than GS

Now that's how I remember it, he played the big events only.

I'm sure Bobby Ray or Bunk will correct me
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 2:03 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95064 posts
Posted on 7/12/15 at 2:37 pm to
Agassi did have the luxury of taking two years off to do blow, meth, and celebrities. Prolly helped save his legs for a little later
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 2:38 pm to
Things you gotta do to be an All Iranian-American

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Sampras and Agassi both won one last grand slam. Doesn't look like Fed will be able to.

A lot of people considered that 2012 Wimbledon.
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