re: F1 2019 Season Thread (Next race: Dec. 1 Abu Dhabi)

Gasly gonna have the fastest lap in Q1

Sainz up in 5th is impressive, almost 5 tenths faster than Lando

Agreed. He needs to be replaced.

Dammmnit leclerc

Worked for me. Have had in in the past and had to logout and log back in.

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Can’t wait to see Bottas get smoked off the line by Lewis tomorrow
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Hopefully both can get a decent start. They have yet to both get off the line together.

Obviously depends on what is damaged.

There was a totalizer someone was doing to keep track of how much the teams were out.




Found the pic of the "World Destructors Championship"


This doesn't take into account think like a $20k sensor being broke on the Williams car yesterday. Also not these prices are not known, and there is probably R&D costs in them.

Speaking of money, I saw this article about the value each driver has brought to their teams:

Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel Is F1's Top Prize Money Winner With $500 Million Haul

But the part the caught my eye was how the payouts were structured:

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Formula One’s annual prize money payout is public knowledge and came to $913 million last year...

The core prize money is equivalent to 47.5% of F1’s underlying profit. It is then divided into two with one half split between the top ten teams in the championship on a sliding scale based on race results. The other half is split evenly but is still driven by race performance as it only goes to teams which have finished in the top ten in two out of the past three years. That is just the start of the story.

In 2013 we revealed for sports broadcaster ESPN that a further 7.5% of F1’s underlying profit is handed to the top three teams based on the number of races won in the four seasons prior to 2012, which is when this benefit was first introduced. This bonus pot is known as the Constructors’ Championship Bonus (CCB) fund and it comes to at least $100 million annually.

It is guaranteed regardless of the teams’ race results and is split between Ferrari, McLaren and Red Bull Racing which leads the CCB pack. This gives it a minimum of $37 million from the CCB fund with McLaren getting at least $33 million for being ranked second and $30 million going to Ferrari. It doesn’t stop there.

Ferrari also gets its own dedicated prize money pay-out as well as sharing in the 47.5% and the CCB Fund. The dedicated prize pot gives Ferrari 5% of F1’s underlying profit which comes to at least $62.2 million annually. Like the CCB fund, this is paid regardless of Ferrari’s race results and it comes in return for the Italian squad being F1’s longest-standing team having been racing in the championship since it was launched in 1950.

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So the strong, well-funded teams are made even stronger with extra bonuses (the CCB, "guaranteed regardless of the teams’ race results"). And Ferrari gets their extra-special bonus just for being Ferrari.

The cards are stacked so the strong well-funded teams can maintain their advantage, and it makes it that much tougher for new teams to compete (most fold within a couple of years). Haas is showing that it can be done with the new rules allowing more parts to be bought from others, but the fact that they can get their chassis from Dallara seems to go against the spirit of F1, which is that each team designs and builds their own car. But that's another discussion.

The last takeaway is that McLaren is one of the strong, well-funded teams that gets extra bonuses for past performance, and they had one of the top drivers until this year, but they have been sucking it up for years now. You can put part of the blame on Honda, but the fact that Honda has had a far better working relationship with the Red Bull organization, could point to management issues within McLaren.

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So the strong, well-funded teams are made even stronger with extra bonuses (the CCB, "guaranteed regardless of the teams’ race results"). And Ferrari gets their extra-special bonus just for being Ferrari

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Sounds like the Big 12 honestly.

Williams gets a legacy bonus as well. Ferrari always threatens to leave F1 and F1 kind of calls their bluff, but truth is they need each other.

Don't think it would be terrible to see Ferrari leave for a dozen years. All the other major manufacters have come and gone.