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ELI5: why is the FBI going after the NCAA?

Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:36 am
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:36 am
I understand what they are doing but what probed them to do it? And is it even neccessary?
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:38 am to
snitches
necessary to create an "even playing field" or at least the appearance of one
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:40 am to
It probably started with something else, and then they noticed the rampant tax evasion.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:42 am to
The FBI arrested a financial adviser from Pittsburgh for SEC violations. He also had dealings with agents, shoe company execs, and a suit maker in Atlanta who had connections with college basketball coaches. In exchange for a reduced sentence, the financial adviser agreed to become a CI/witness in other financial misdealings involving college basketball coaches/players/programs.

It's not that the FBI one day decided to "go after" the NCAA. It's where their investigation on non-NCAA related issues took them.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:42 am to
the SEC busted a financial adviser for a ponzi scheme who was connected to a bunch of NBA players and it just came out in their investigation that he was benefiting from adidas telling coaches to push their players to sign with him when they go pro
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:48 am to
Republican controlled FBI going after minorities
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:50 am to
quote:

the SEC busted a financial adviser for a ponzi scheme who was connected to a bunch of NBA players and it just came out in their investigation that he was benefiting from adidas telling coaches to push their players to sign with him when they go pro
But what specifically is the FBI charging people with? It's clearly a violation of NCAA rules but criminally what have they done wrong?
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:55 am to
Public bribery.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:55 am to
Bribery of state employees
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:56 am to
Posted by MidnightVibe
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

The FBI arrested a financial adviser from Pittsburgh for SEC violations. He also had dealings with agents, shoe company execs, and a suit maker in Atlanta who had connections with college basketball coaches. In exchange for a reduced sentence, the financial adviser agreed to become a CI/witness in other financial misdealings involving college basketball coaches/players/programs.

It's not that the FBI one day decided to "go after" the NCAA. It's where their investigation on non-NCAA related issues took them.


This is exactly what happened with the Boston College point shaving scandal. This is explained more thoroughly in the book ("wise guys" by Nicolas Pileggi) than in the 30 for 30 documentary, but the purpose of putting Henry Hill in the witness protection program was to get as much info as possible on Jimmy Burke. And during a line of questioning with Hill, he made inadvertent passing reference to the scheme while trying to explain something completely unrelated.

And that ended up being the most useful information they ever got from Hill.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 11:59 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:07 pm to
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It probably started with something else, and then they noticed the rampant tax evasion.
This! A lower level guy got busted for something else and offered up the whole god damn system of corruption
Posted by MidnightVibe
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

It probably started with something else, and then they noticed the rampant tax evasion.


Tax evasion by the coaches? Not following; kindly explain.
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:11 pm to
The federal government gets pissed when they don't get their cut
Posted by MidnightVibe
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Bribery of state employees


The people being charged are the state employees.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Tax evasion by the coaches? Not following; kindly explain.


Coaches, agents, players, families of players.
Posted by Giant Leaf
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:18 pm to
The FBI is not going after the NCAA in any way

They are going after bad actors that work for institutions that the NCAA oversees
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:19 pm to
Because they took bribes
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:20 pm to
and to the others who responded. Thx
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

It probably started with something else, and then they noticed the rampant tax evasion.
I would imagine Pitino’s name being involved probably generated interest in the case.
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