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Early Signing Period begins tomorrow.

Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:13 pm
For the first time NCAA Football will have an early signing period that will be along with the JUCO signing dates. Are you interested or do you think this is a good or bad move? Should a kid be locked into a school if say the HC of a school takes a NFL job?
Posted by SanAntoneAg
Alamo City
Member since Dec 2017
1753 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:17 pm to
I'm more interested to see how many assistant coaches are fired/move the day after early signing day. Some estimates are that up to 1/3 of coaches are going to be gone come Friday.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18421 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:26 pm to
It's a good move. A committed recruit who doesn't sign early isn't really committed....he's still looking. This early signing period will inform coaches who's serious about their school/team and who isn't.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Some estimates are that up to 1/3 of coaches are going to be gone come Friday.


This is a bit of an anomaly due to adding the 10th assistant coach this year.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:29 pm to
I like it as it will let kids enjoy their year, but I am not sure if some colleges will drop kids because some guy did not sign early at a rival and leave kids with nowhere to go. It is a strange, guess the newness. But should a kid be obligated to go somewhere if a HC leaves for NFL job, with same penalty since the regular date has not passed? But your actions have consequences.

I want to see how that gets handled or addressed.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:31 pm to
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I am not sure if some colleges will drop kids because some guy did not sign early


If the lower level guys sign, then they're guaranteed to have a four year scholarship. I actually think it could give more clarity to lower level guys.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4643 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:34 pm to
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A committed recruit who doesn't sign early isn't really committed....he's still looking. This early signing period will inform coaches who's serious about their school/team and who isn't.
So an 18 year old kid isn't "really committed" if they don't sign early, but it's ok for the coach to bolt? It just puts additional pressure for kids to commit early to make sure they don't lose a spot to someone else.

It's also especially difficult for new coaches who just got hired to actually recruit, build relationships, and get a class put together at the last second. At least February gives everyone plenty of time.

How is this supposed to improve the process?
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:36 pm to
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they're guaranteed to have a four year scholarship


Incorrect scholarships are only a year long.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112313 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:38 pm to
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If the lower level guys sign, then they're guaranteed to have a four year scholarship. I actually think it could give more clarity to lower level guys.


I've seen some concern that the bigger schools will press some of the lower talent to hold off on committing early to a school that wants you, so that the big school will have that kid as a backup plan at the national signing day if they lose out on higher profile recruits
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:40 pm to
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've seen some concern that the bigger schools will press some of the lower talent to hold off on committing early to a school that wants you, so that the big school will have that kid as a backup plan at the national signing day if they lose out on higher profile recruits


True, but those guys can sign with a lower tier team so the top level schools might have to take a bird in the hard rather than potentially two in the bush.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28052 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:41 pm to
Big name coaches already trying to frick kids over.

Already telling some to wait, there could be an opening soon. And selling them on a scholarship that doesn't exist right now and might never exist.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18421 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:51 pm to
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So an 18 year old kid isn't "really committed" if they don't sign early, but it's ok for the coach to bolt? It just puts additional pressure for kids to commit early to make sure they don't lose a spot to someone else.

Nearly all of your big coaching changes have taken place by mid-December. If you have a guy who's committed but doesn't wanna sign in December so he can take visits in January...he's not committed. He's open.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:53 pm to
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Already telling some to wait, there could be an opening soon. And selling them on a scholarship that doesn't exist right now and might never exist.
A kid only has himself to blame if he doesn't have the ability to critically think his way through that situation.


What's the reasoning behind an early signing period and the date it falls on?
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 3:54 pm to
I like the early signing period for the mid-level (2 and 3 star) recruits/commits. If the program won't supply early signing period paperwork and asks them to "wait", then they'll have some clarity and be able to go somewhere else.

It might also reduce some of the last minute flipping/gamesmanship on the part of the higher level (4 and 5 star) recruits, if they see classes filling up in December.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 6:14 pm to
I honestly don't understand why an elite five star player would sign early unless they plan to enroll early.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69615 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:04 pm to
South has been using it to see who is really interested.

We've seen the phenomenon you're talking about but we just move to the next kid if they're flakey.


I like it because it gives a chance to find an alternative instead of a p5 swooping in and offering in February.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:04 pm to
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This new rule is huge for the G5 level. It will make it far less likely that they lose a player on NSD because he was some power five schools eighth backup plan. 


Nailed it
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:06 pm to
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The fact that Nick Sagan hates this rules should tell you all you need to know.
You ain't kidding
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