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During the last 8 years the East has only had 3 NBA 1st teamers
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:47 am
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:47 am
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EAST:
DERRICK ROSE 1X (10-11)
DWIGHT HOWARD 2X (10-11, 11-12)
JOAKIM NOAH 1X (13-14)
Puts LBJ dominance in perspective
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:51 am to TJGator1215
quote:It does.
Puts LBJ dominance in perspective
LeBron has won 3 titles without a teammate making first team all nba
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 8:52 am
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:56 am to lsupride87
quote:how many did MJ have?
LeBron has won 3 titles without a teammate making first team all nba
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:56 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:5
how many did MJ have?
He only had 3 titles without a teammate on 1st or second team all nba
Same as LeBron..............This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 8:58 am
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:06 am to lsupride87
Imagine Lebron with a teammate this dominant
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:09 am to GreatLakesTiger24
You mean like Dwayne Wade?
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:11 am to ChiSaint
DWADE was well past his prime when Lebron came to town
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:13 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
Imagine Lebron with a teammate this dominant
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:13 am to GreatLakesTiger24
1x 2nd team All-NBA and 2x 3rd team All-NBA during LBJ’s tenure there.
Aren’t those accolades what this threads all about?
Aren’t those accolades what this threads all about?
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:15 am to GreatLakesTiger24
And wasn’t DWade like 28 when LBJ arrived? Isn’t that the prime of most great b-ball players? Dude was 1st team all NBA the two years prior to James’ arrival.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:19 am to ChiSaint
Don't forget Ray Allen and bosh. Both were all stars as well.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:21 am to ChiSaint
quote:
And wasn’t DWade like 28 when LBJ arrived? Isn’t that the prime of most great b-ball players? Dude was 1st team all NBA the two years prior to James’ arrival.
He wasn't as good of an overall player as Scottie in his prime. Jordan had the luxury of playing with Scottie during the entirety of his prime. Pippen's value as a defender is vastly underrated. When LeBron broke the playoff record for most steals in the playoffs it was Pippen's record that was broken.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:23 am to ChiSaint
Scottie was first team for one championship (plus '94 and '95)
second team for two
third team for two
first team all defense every year
dwade was third team for lebron's two Miami championships
He wasn't the same player as '06 Wade due to injury
second team for two
third team for two
first team all defense every year
dwade was third team for lebron's two Miami championships
He wasn't the same player as '06 Wade due to injury
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:25 am to Powerman
Ok. And I’m not denying Pippen’s greatness. But everyone seems to want to deny Wade’s greatness. Dude was a stud and LBJ got to play with Wade during Wade’s prime.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:29 am to TJGator1215
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Don't forget Ray Allen and bosh. Both were all stars as well.
Ray Allen was old when he joined the Heat.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:43 am to ChiSaint
Wade was great the year Lebron choked and froze up against the Mavericks. Wade was a very good player the year they won their first title against the Thunder. Wade was a fricking minus the next year in the playoffs when they beat the Spurs. His knees were done, he wasn't in shape, he couldn't shoot. Three straight title runs were too much for his body to bear. And then the year they lost to the Spurs...my god. He couldn't even dribble.
Anyone who tries to dispute didn't actually watch those Heat title runs, or at least didn't watch them intently, and is just throwing Wade's name around as if every year Wade played he was prime 09 D Wade.
Anyone who tries to dispute didn't actually watch those Heat title runs, or at least didn't watch them intently, and is just throwing Wade's name around as if every year Wade played he was prime 09 D Wade.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 5/28/18 at 10:28 am to TJGator1215
So LeBron has never been 1st teamer?
Posted on 5/28/18 at 10:47 am to tigerfan88
quote:gets it
tigerfan88
Posted on 5/28/18 at 10:52 am to TJGator1215
quote:
JOAKIM NOAH 1X (13-14)
Holy shite that list is even shorter/worse than I thought it would be.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 11:00 am to ChiSaint
I posted before, but Wade vs Pippen is an interesting comparison. I looked at VORP to try to see both offense and D because I think Wade is better on offense and Pippen better on D.
Wade had higher peaks, which were before LeBron came. He was in a slow decline when LeBron showed up.
Pippen had lower peaks but was actually consistently better during the Bulls championship runs. You can argue Pippen was more of an asset during their respective duo days.
It makes sense to the extent that prime Wade was about getting to the rim and his decline pretty much tracks his athletic peak. Pippen brought more across the board, so his game sustained longer than the explosive scorer.
Wade had higher peaks, which were before LeBron came. He was in a slow decline when LeBron showed up.
Pippen had lower peaks but was actually consistently better during the Bulls championship runs. You can argue Pippen was more of an asset during their respective duo days.
It makes sense to the extent that prime Wade was about getting to the rim and his decline pretty much tracks his athletic peak. Pippen brought more across the board, so his game sustained longer than the explosive scorer.
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