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re: Drew Brees omitted from NFL’s all-time team
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:18 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:18 pm to Lester Earl
Well then you’re definitely way off here
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:49 pm to 1BamaRTR
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The thing the committee might actually think Brees is a top 10 QB. If you look at these lists and the fact that’s a celebration of the league’s history, then you can see that they were purposely trying to include only a small number of players from each era. So Brees and Rodgers were essentially competing with Brady and Manning for the 2 spots of this era.
This guy gets it
I do find it humerous that many who ridiculed Tony Romo forever because he didnt win a SB have now discovered that SB wins might in fact be a team stat after all
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:50 pm to Bench McElroy
Really dumb drew is behind only Brady
Posted on 12/28/19 at 3:54 pm to Lester Earl
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In your opinion, is there a position in team sports that has more bearing on wins & losses than quarterback
It is a lot higher on the list than some around here would lead you to believe.
For example, over his career Brees has a QB rating of 110.5 in wins and 82.8 in losses. That type of delta is true for every all-time great I've looked at. Rodgers is the highest I've found thus far at 87.1
The simple fact is, if you are losing football games statistically more often than not you got a shite-to-mediocre performance out of your QB, even if they are elite.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:27 pm to Bench McElroy
The list looks about right to me. Can’t reward a QB who consistently plays like shite in the playoffs nearly his entire career (Brees). Racking up stats in the modern era during the regular season really isn’t that impressive
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:33 pm to gamatt53
Laughing at all the morons who claim Brees should have made this list. How the hell can you defend a player who almost always plays like shite in the playoffs? For god sakes, they were heavy favorites at home and lost to a team led by Kirk fricking Cousins. Bahahahahaha
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:34 pm to BayouCatFan
Compare Brady and Brees’s playoff stats
Get back to me
Get back to me
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:37 pm to Sun God
Sure. Brady has frickin way more wins. Debate over
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:38 pm to BayouCatFan
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How the hell can you defend a player who almost always plays like shite in the playoffs?
Are you slow?
Drew sucked today, but he's been a beast in the playoffs more often than not.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:38 pm to Sun God
Brees' game today was better than Tom Brady's average playoff game
That's what I find hilarious
He literally plays better, then is trashed for playing like crap and loses because the defense shite the bed on the last drive again = Brady ringz!!
That's what I find hilarious
He literally plays better, then is trashed for playing like crap and loses because the defense shite the bed on the last drive again = Brady ringz!!
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:41 pm to gamatt53
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Sure. Brady has frickin way more wins. Debate over
It’s fricking hilarious that wins count so much in a game with the most players
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:46 pm to Sun God
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It’s fricking hilarious that wins count so much in a game with the most players
It is hilarious. I’m sure drew is just laughing it up right now in the locker room after losing
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:47 pm to gamatt53
That’s my point
But I understand how a Georgia and Falcons fan wouldn’t get it
But I understand how a Georgia and Falcons fan wouldn’t get it
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:47 pm to gamatt53
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It is hilarious. I’m sure drew is just laughing it up right now in the locker room after losing “but muh stats!!!”
Players want to win. Shocker, I know.
However, when you're tanking all timers, you should only consider what they can control. This isn't rocket science.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:47 pm to gamatt53
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This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:50 pm to slackster
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However, when you're tanking all timers, you should only consider what they can control.
And the quarterback position has more control over who wins and who loses than any other position in sports. So wins matter when we are discussing them.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:51 pm to RollTide1987
quote:More control does not equal full control.
And the quarterback position has more control over who wins and who loses than any other position in sports. So wins matter when we are discussing them.
1 QB can have his team score more points, more yards, and less turnovers in the postseason and have infinitely less team success. So it's wayyyyyyy less control than you seem to think.
Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Tim Tebow won a playoff game. All that control!!!
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:57 pm to shel311
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More control does not equal full control.
He has total control of the offense. That's more control than any other player is afforded on the field. He 100% responsible for 1/3 of the game. His play also effects what his team's defense does or doesn't do, so you can definitely argue that his shadow looms over at least two-thirds of the team. That's a long shadow. And while it's not necessarily total control, it's as close to total control as it gets in team sports.
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1 QB can have his team score more points, more yards, and less turnovers in the postseason and have infinitely less team success.
True. But more often than not, if you have a great QB leading your team, you're going to make the playoffs.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 3:58 pm to shel311
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Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. Tim Tebow won a playoff game. All that control!!!
There are exceptions to every rule. Yes, Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl but how many times did go back? Yes...Tim Tebow won a playoff game but how many more did he win after that?
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