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re: Draymond thinks GS wins because the rest of the league is soft
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:31 am to Weagle25
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:31 am to Weagle25
quote:
I love when people who hate Draymond act like he's a nobody.
what people are saying is how much of a somebody would he really be if he wasn't on the Warriors? He'd be a solid player but he wouldn't be the all-star he's been the past 3 years.
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:34 am to lsufball19
quote:He'd still be arguably the best defensive player in the NBA, and a great facilitator.
what people are saying is how much of a somebody would he really be if he wasn't on the Warriors? He'd be a solid player but he wouldn't be the all-star he's been the past 3 years.
i imagine he'd still be an All STar, though All Stars really don't mean much to be honest.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:35 am to Lester Earl
quote:
How do you measure toughness
You can't, which is why Boom is using it in his argument so no one can "prove" him wrong
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:36 am to shel311
Then Love must be a fricking lock
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:37 am to shel311
quote:Id put him as fringe all star. But if he was truly the best player on your team, nobody on this board would really talk about him, and neither would the media. He would be an afterthought completely
He'd still be arguably the best defensive player in the NBA, and a great facilitator.
i imagine he'd still be an All STar, though All Stars really don't mean much to be honest.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:38 am to cubsfan5150
quote:I don't know, I'm talking about Draymond, who will get in, no question IMO.
Then Love must be a fricking lock
You're the one that seems beholden to that list, not me.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:40 am to lsupride87
quote:Disagree.
Id put him as fringe all star. But if he was truly the best player on your team, nobody on this board would really talk about him, and neither would the media. He would be an afterthought completely
The team may not be great, but if he were truly the best player on a team, I'd bet he'd average near a triple double. He'd probably be something like a 15/9/9 type guy.
That's pretty rare, not really fringe All Star material IMO.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:41 am to shel311
quote:
i imagine he'd still be an All STar, though All Stars really don't mean much to be honest.
Put him on a team that doesn't get the exposure Golden State does and no he's not. I'll give you an example. Pau Gasol plays in Memphis for 8 years. He made exactly one all-star game. He goes to LA, puts up almost identical numbers on a better and more popular team, and makes three straight all-star games his first 3 years in LA.
SO you're telling me a guy like Draymond is going to put up 14 and 8 and be a perennial all-star on a team not named golden state? please
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:41 am to cubsfan5150
quote:
Then Love must be a fricking lock
Kevin love
Consensus all american, 5x all star, 1x nba champ, 2x nba second team, 1 gold medal
Projections when finished
Consensus all american, 7x all star, 1x nba champ, 2x nba second team, 1 gold medal
Daymond
consensus all american, 3x nba champ,defensive player of the year, 3x 1st team all defense, 3x all star, 2nd team all nba, 3rd team all nba, gold medal
Projections
consensus all american, 4x nba champ,defensive player of the year, 5x 1st team all defense, 6x all star, 2x 2nd team all nba, 2x 3rd team all nba, 2 gold medals
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:44 am to lsufball19
quote:I don't care about All Star appearances, so ok.
Put him on a team that doesn't get the exposure Golden State does and no he's not. I'll give you an example. Pau Gasol plays in Memphis for 8 years. He made exactly one all-star game. He goes to LA, puts up almost identical numbers on a better and more popular team, and makes three straight all-star games his first 3 years in LA.
SO you're telling me a guy like Draymond is going to put up 14 and 8 and be a perennial all-star on a team not named golden state? please
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:45 am to shel311
quote:Pao gasol averaged 19-9-3 on 51% shooting in memphis for 8 years and made 1 all star game
Disagree.
The team may not be great, but if he were truly the best player on a team, I'd bet he'd average near a triple double. He'd probably be something like a 15/9/9 type guy.
That's pretty rare, not really fringe All Star material IMO.
I dont see draymond being an all star lock if he was doing his thing in obscurity in memphis or orlando
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:52 am to shel311
quote:
I don't care about All Star appearances, so ok.
people who vote for the HOF do, so ok
Pau made three straight all-nba teams the year after leaving memphis as well since you don't care about all-star teams.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:54 am to lsufball19
Intangibles always show up in that win loss column.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:58 am to lsufball19
quote:You know this, how?
people who vote for the HOF do, so ok
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:59 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Intangibles always show up in that win loss column.
playing with Kobe Bryant and not Bonzi Wells shows up in the win/loss column
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 11:09 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:00 am to shel311
quote:
You know this, how?
You dispute this, how?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:03 am to shel311
quote:
i imagine he'd still be an All STar, though All Stars really don't mean much to be honest.
No kidding. There are all-star level players on lottery teams.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:04 am to lsufball19
quote:I didn't dispute it. I asked how you know that, to which, you did not answer.
You dispute this, how?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:04 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Intangibles always show up in that win loss column.
Yeah, I question the wisdom of someone that uses the word "always" in the context of something that can't be measured in the first place.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:05 am to shel311
quote:
I didn't dispute it.
ok then if you don't dispute it then what are we talking about?
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