re: Do you think Randy Johnson will get into the HOF next year?

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This is blasphemy, but I think outside of Nolan Ryan, there is no single player in baseball history more overrated than Sandy Koufax. He's a Hall of Famer and a great piayer, but this quoted statement is plainly untrue.

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ERA+ is a great metric, but it's not bounded so using it to compare the very best (or very worst) pitchers isn't extremely accurate.

"Blasphemy" and "plainly untrue"? Really? Get over yourself.

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It was the same distance from mound to the plate at every ballpark. So every pitcher was at the same levels..

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great addition to the thread

I'm biased, but to me, it's a no brainer that he goes in as a Diamondback.

Well, I used blasphemy to refer to myself. But plainly untrue DOES apply to what you said. Statistically, Pedro blows the doors off of Koufax. Koufax's numbers are massively inflated by both his era and playing in Dodger Stadium. It was probably the single best time and place to be a pitcher. And even without era adjustments, Pedro's ERA's are right there with Koufax. Include the time period, stadium, and even the DH rule... Pedro's numbers are simply better than Koufax's. In the middle of the greatest offensive era in history, Pedro was posting ERA's of 1.90 and 1.74.

Pedro has better stats than Koufax. Period.

And fine, ERA+ isn't a precision metric. I agree. But Pedro's aren't even in the same ballpark as Koufax's. They are so much better that unless the metric is just completely broken, which I disagree with, Pedro's numbers crush Koufax's.