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Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:54 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:utility players/bench coach/retirement
Where do 2nd basemens transition to?
Posted on 3/14/12 at 2:57 pm to WDE24
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utility players/bench coach/retirement
Because they are limited to a certain position b/c of their arm strength.
As fielding goes I say 2nd basemen are better athletes but for hitting and fielding I give the edge to 3rd basemen.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:02 pm to Topwater Trout
I agree. As someone already said, it all depends on how athlete is defined and what athletic attributes you value most. Lateral movement, speed and range are going to favor the 2nd basemen. Power and potentially reflexes will favor the third baseman.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:06 pm to WDE24
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here is a reason that they move old cathers to 3rd base and not 2nd. And no Biggio wasn't old when they moved him.
If you can give me five successful players who did this I will be surprised. Try.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:07 pm to LSUIEGRAD13
2nd base, easily. Need range. 3rd basemen can be a statue almost. Helps if they are athletic, but it isn't necessary.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:07 pm to WDE24
Also depends on level. In college and pros most infielders have strong arms. I think some people would be surprised how strong MLB 2nd basemens arms are....they should try backhanding a ball behind the bag and making the throw to first.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:09 pm to LSUIEGRAD13
quote:No thanks. I didn't make that claim.
If you can give me five successful players who did this I will be surprised. Try.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:12 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:13 pm to TigerintheNO
Obviously I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to tigerintheNO.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:14 pm to LSUIEGRAD13
With 2nd base, you have to cover more ground, but you can have an average arm...
With 3rd base, you have to have quick reflexes and a strong arm, but you cover hardly any ground unless you are just absolutely able to cut the ball off before it can get to shortstop...
I'll go with 2nd as having to be more athletic. When have you ever seen a good amount of fat 2nd basemen starting at one time in the MLB? I'd say it happens far more often at 3rd.
With 3rd base, you have to have quick reflexes and a strong arm, but you cover hardly any ground unless you are just absolutely able to cut the ball off before it can get to shortstop...
I'll go with 2nd as having to be more athletic. When have you ever seen a good amount of fat 2nd basemen starting at one time in the MLB? I'd say it happens far more often at 3rd.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:14 pm to LSUIEGRAD13
But with that said if anyone can I will still be impressed.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:15 pm to LSUIEGRAD13
Played 2nd and 3rd.
3rd is tougher to play. Need to be more athletic to play 2nd.
3rd is tougher to play. Need to be more athletic to play 2nd.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:17 pm to BayouBengals03
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Played 2nd and 3rd.
Same here, and shortstop.
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3rd is tougher to play. Need to be more athletic to play 2nd.
Without a doubt, you are correct. They call it the Hot Spot for a reason.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:20 pm to WDE24
that is a strong arm Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:22 pm to TTsTowel
I played short too. By far the most fun to me.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:24 pm to BayouBengals03
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I played short too. By far the most fun to me.
Not to sound cocky, but is it just me, or was the best part to SS being able to show off how good you can play? I always thought that was the best part... Also gets you recognized fast because it's an important position.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:27 pm to TTsTowel
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Not to sound cocky, but is it just me, or was the best part to SS being able to show off how good you can play? I always thought that was the best part... Also gets you recognized fast because it's an important position.
Yep, and it is also a hard position to play, so that always made me feel like there wasn't as much pressure on me. And in baseball, playing free of pressure is so important. I wouldn't even have to think out there. It felt like I was in control. I always wanted the ball to come to me.
Admittedly at 3rd, if a heavy hitter was up, I wouldn't mind him hitting it somewhere else.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:29 pm to BayouBengals03
biggest diff between the two positions
2nd -better feet
3rd -better arm
generally speaking better feet translates into athleticism more than a strong arm
2nd -better feet
3rd -better arm
generally speaking better feet translates into athleticism more than a strong arm
Posted on 3/14/12 at 3:31 pm to BayouBengals03
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Admittedly at 3rd, if a heavy hitter was up, I wouldn't mind him hitting it somewhere else.
Thats when mistakes are made.
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