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re: DNA Report Connects Alleged Victim to Winston
Posted on 11/21/13 at 11:55 am to lsupride87
Posted on 11/21/13 at 11:55 am to lsupride87
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What about the fact of sworn testimonies in his favor? T
I would give this the least amount of weight of all the evidence
Winstons attorney has had 11 months to work on every paragraph, period, and dotted i from each individual.
He was given an unfair heads up, while the accusers chances to gather evidence was basically non-existent because the prosecutors were never even notified to start the process
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 12:09 pm
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:07 pm to League Champs
Yeah, the affidavits don't necessarily mean much, especially without knowing what's in them. And given the head start the defense lawyer had, they could even be misleading.
"Did you see Jameis Winston rape the accuser? No? Ok, sign here."
Eta: the first thing you do when you're guilty is get your defense lawyer to get a bunch of affidavits to contradict other info.
"Did you see Jameis Winston rape the accuser? No? Ok, sign here."
Eta: the first thing you do when you're guilty is get your defense lawyer to get a bunch of affidavits to contradict other info.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:10 pm to the808bass
quote:
Yeah, the affidavits don't necessarily mean much, especially without knowing what's in them. And given the head start the defense lawyer had, they could even be misleading.
"Did you see Jameis Winston rape the accuser? No? Ok, sign here."
Eta: the first thing you do when you're guilty is get your defense lawyer to get a bunch of affidavits to contradict other info.
True.
I will say though.
If the rumor is true that one of the affidavits is from the girl's roommate.....
That certainly makes it a bit more interesting. (Since it wouldnt be just a football player cosigning on it)
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:12 pm to the808bass
The victim went to the hospital mere hours after the incident occurred. Hospital procedure after a sexual assault claim is to document all injuries. Say those records have physical injuries, match that with his DNA from that night, and the fact that she identified him as the suspect and case closed.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:14 pm to massiveattack
Yep. If there were injuries, even minor, one would think it would be lights out for Jameis.
And assume she is lying, which I doubt, but let's just say she is. Then in order to frame Jameis for rape, even the dumbest person on the planet would know to fake a few cuts and bruises. So she could have done it all herself after the fact, and he goes down.
And assume she is lying, which I doubt, but let's just say she is. Then in order to frame Jameis for rape, even the dumbest person on the planet would know to fake a few cuts and bruises. So she could have done it all herself after the fact, and he goes down.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:18 pm to alabamabuckeye
I wonder if there's any chance that the NCAA comes down on FSU like they did with Penn St.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:19 pm to Majin Buu
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I wonder if there's any chance that the NCAA comes down on FSU like they did with Penn St.
How? Unless it's proven that the University knew about it and covered it up, nothing will come of it. As far as I know, the cover-up was done by the TPD, correct?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:27 pm to alabamabuckeye
Well they gave a copy of the police report to Winston's attorney before even interviewing him or letting him know he was a suspect. And that attorney also happens to represent FSU.
So, there's something there.
So, there's something there.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:31 pm to League Champs
quote:You people are nuts. Thank god this country wasnt started by people like you. So, everything the alleged victim is taken as fact by you, but anyone who supports Jameis "doesn't carry much weight." So, in your mind, how the hell could a man who had consensual sex prove his innocence. In your court of law it would be freaking impossible
I would give this the least amount of weight of all the evidence
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:48 pm to lsupride87
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So, in your mind, how the hell could a man who had consensual sex prove his innocence.
It's really difficult to prove innocence if there is a documentation of injuries.
She also had a rape kit test done. Her trip to the police station and to the hospital occurred almost immediately after the alleged rape occurred.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:50 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Thats my point, how the hell can a man who has had consensual sex be proven not guilty if witnesses "carry no weight" It would literally be impossible. In Leaque Champs opinion, i want to know how it will be possible for Jamies to prove innocence
She also had a rape kit test done.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:56 pm to Rittdog
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:56 pm to lsupride87
I assume if there are no injuries that point to assault, he'd be found innocent by the jury. Easy.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:58 pm to massiveattack
quote:Ok, the chances are this is prolly the case. But it would be really easy for a man to rape a woman without leaving injuries
I assume if there are no injuries that point to assault, he'd be found innocent by the jury. Easy.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:58 pm to lsupride87
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Thats my point, how the hell can a man who has had consensual sex be proven not guilty if witnesses "carry no weight" It would literally be impossible.
Witnesses carry weight until their testimony is overruled by the evidence. His semen was found in her panties. That much is clear. We know they at least had sex. Did she get buyer's remorse? Was she embarrassed? Possibly. But that usually develops over time. She went straight to campus police after the alleged incident occurred.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:00 pm to RollTide1987
quote:I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think the witnesses carry a ton of weight because of course she will say it is rape and of course he will say it wasn't. Assuming there were no cuts or bruises inflicted by jameis, the witnesses will be the most important part
Witnesses carry weight until their testimony is overruled by the evidence. His semen was found in her panties. That much is clear. We know they at least had sex. Did she get buyer's remorse? Was she embarrassed? Possibly. But that usually develops over time. She went straight to campus police after the alleged incident occurred.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:04 pm to lsupride87
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But it would be really easy for a man to rape a woman without leaving injuries
Say what?
She just lays back and takes it, right?
You want to rape me, you are going to have to punch my lights out.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:05 pm to KosmoCramer
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According to the DNA analysis report, a copy of which was viewed by ESPN.com on Wednesday, the Florida state crime lab determined that the chances of the DNA in the woman's underwear are a match for someone other than Winston was one in 2.2 trillion
I do believe the population of the world is about 8 trillion. Therefore, there are at least 2 other people that could have that match.
Reasonable doubt, bitches!
Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:06 pm to BamaChick
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She just lays back and takes it, right?
You want to rape me, you are going to have to punch my lights out.
Is it possible they were already "in the act" ....she wanted no more and then he still continued?
Thats "rape" as well.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:06 pm to BamaChick
There would be obvious bruises from restraint, plus the fact that all any of us have experienced is consensual sex (hopefully) and we should know that there is some accommodation and relaxation for insertion. This would not be true in a rape case and forceful entry could be shown.
Anyways, this is way too in depth for any part of this website.
Anyways, this is way too in depth for any part of this website.
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