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Department of Education rescinds Biden admin Title IX guidance re: rev sharing

Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:16 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83293 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:16 am


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The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights has rescinded its Title IX guidance that would have impacted schools’ revenue-sharing plans. Released in January in the final days of the Biden administration, the guidance stated that future revenue distributions from an institution to an athlete for NIL rights were classified as “financial assistance.” If not proportionally divided, schools would risk violating Title IX.

The Trump administration has rescinded that guidance, clearing the pathway for over 80 percent of revenue-sharing dollars to be directed to college football and men’s basketball. For the 2025-26 academic year, schools will operate with a revenue-sharing cap of $20.5 million if the House v. NCAA settlement is officially approved this spring.


This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21427 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:19 am to
i hate title 9 and dept of education but I think it is proper to share revenue across all student athletes equally, just like scholarship counts.

I want schools and players to feel the pain of breaking the old system to the point a new system can be built properly.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6021 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:23 am to
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but I think it is proper to share revenue across all student athletes equally,



Why?


If you worked at a company and made 10 million dollars in sales in a given year, why should your compensation be the same as the person who finished that same year in the red?

This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 9:27 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83293 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:24 am to
You lost me at equal compensation across the board
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6021 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:28 am to
Yep. There's no logical reason that someone who actually loses money for an organization should receive the same compensation as a breadwinner.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37388 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:29 am to
I told yall this within 24 hours of the announcement

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I think it is proper to share revenue across all student athletes equally, just like scholarship counts.


Nobody you don’t. You just want that because it’s decidedly not right. Just as you say:

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I want schools and players to feel the pain of breaking the old system to the point a new system can be built properly.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
13932 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:30 am to
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I think it is proper to share revenue across all student athletes equally.


I think it is proper to call you a commie.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 9:34 am
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6021 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:39 am to
It's just ridiculous. If in some parallel universe, football lost money for a university but women's soccer made gobs of cash, the football players wouldn't deserve as much as the ladies playing soccer. It's basic math. The same reason why WNBA players don't deserve NBA salaries. Want more money? Get more popular. Nobody is bitching that Livvy Dunne makes more than the backup long snapper for the football team. She generates more cash so she deserves more. This equal compensation garbage is nonsense.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21427 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:46 am to
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I think it is proper to call you a commie.


Why? Rules have always been required for fair competition. Government and sports are not comparable.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21427 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:47 am to
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You lost me at equal compensation across the board


I made no such statement. Revenue sharing isn't all encompassing compensation.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21427 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:49 am to
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It's just ridiculous. If in some parallel universe, football lost money for a university but women's soccer made gobs of cash, the football players wouldn't deserve as much as the ladies playing soccer. It's basic math. The same reason why WNBA players don't deserve NBA salaries. Want more money? Get more popular. Nobody is bitching that Livvy Dunne makes more than the backup long snapper for the football team. She generates more cash so she deserves more. This equal compensation garbage is nonsense.


College sports is not pro sports and should not be moving that way. The system is broken. Comparing pro sports is irrelevant.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6021 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:12 am to
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Comparing pro sports is irrelevant.


Disagree, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Once college athletes began to negotiate for portions of revenue with the universities, it became an employee/employer relationship. The University makes the money and the students are "owed" a portion of the proceeds in exchange for their services to the university. Professional sports are defined as organized sports where athletes are paid for their participation. You're being paid to play, you're a professional athlete. They and you don't get to reap or argue for financial benefits to student athletes when it suits you but then retreat to the safety of "well they're just students, not professionals" when the other not so appealing parts of that employment relationship come up in discussion.


Either take the good with the bad, like we all do when it comes to employment relationships or forfeit the benefits of financial compensation that come with that relationship. You don't get to have both.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 7:38 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:13 am to
Good move
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44984 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:14 am to
Because it is not a professional sport. I despise that universities are hiding their true motives.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6021 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:14 am to
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Because it is not a professional sport. I despise that universities are hiding their true motives.


Define a professional sport. I promise you that whichever definition you'd like to choose will apply to modern college athletics.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42241 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:16 am to
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Because it is not a professional sport.


We're past that. Amateurism is dead.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44984 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:17 am to
That's my point.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66753 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:19 am to
Players make money off the brand of the programs they attend not vice verse. If you took every 5* recruit and put them at grand valley state, the SEC and Big 10 would still draw 100x more viewership and interest.
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 10:23 am
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6021 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:23 am to
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We're past that. Amateurism is dead.


100%. It just annoys me to see student athletes argue for what is effectively an employment relationship with their universities but when the down side of that relationship manifests itself (getting cut for subpar performance, loss of roster spots, etc.) suddenly they want to be "students" again. Pick one or the other like everyone else.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
42241 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:26 am to
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but when the down side of that relationship manifests itself (getting cut for subpar performance, loss of roster spots, etc.) suddenly they want to be "students" again


Good point. It should be one or the other.
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